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Nillaice
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not that i really need another motorcycle, but i am tempted to step up to the plate add a Uly to my collection.
currently i have an 03XB9S/R, and an 09 1125R, and am parting out an 03 blast

what would the lot of you say would be the best model year to buy/own and for what reasons?
i'd be doing my own maintenance and up-keep.
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Yamafreak
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A New One!
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As new as you can afford. If it is an XT.
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Wired2
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 2010 xt is awesome
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Court
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perfectly happy with my 25th Anniversary 2008.

Birthday gift from my wife . . I see both the bike and her being here for a long time.

: )

Bike came with warranty,instructions and is easy to understand. . . not so Italian wives.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=21&post=1981635#POST1981635
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still lovin' my '06. But, I'm a tinkerer.

Manual idle speed adjustment? Check.

Manually adjustable base timing? Check.

Totally awesome D616 tires, good for muck, mud, snow, salt, sand, and pavement? Check.

Easily upgraded to later-style ('07) progressive fork springs and '08 heated grips? Yep.

End result is, though...I don't think there's really a "bad" year. It's a great platform, a solid design, and like anything it's had a steady stream of improvements - and they're all retrofittable to earlier bikes.

So, to answer the original question - just get a well-maintained one. Model year immaterial.

Ride.

Smile.

Repeat.

: )
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Nillaice
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and of course i have to gain interest after buell.com goes bye-bye and takes the uly's specs with it
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12x9sl
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2010-most refined, most sorted out.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

do a fly, buy and ride.

I want to fly out to Washington State and buy a ???? and take my sweet time coming back to Ohio

but that's me

just a FYI

Southwest has flights for $75 bucks
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you looking at an X or XT?

I say grab a 2010 if you can find one. Other than that an 08/09. My 09 XT has been fantastic. 20K and no real mechanical problems. Front plug fuel fouled a few times, and the front turn signals have needed to be re-tightened.

Being that you already have a XB9 and an 1125, you might want to go towards an X model. Although I live on a dirt road and have gone camping on my XT with no problems.
Being that you already have
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there's an 08 XB12X listed locally, but with enough trust/pics; i'd fly, buy and ride

i definetly want the luggage. preferably i can get it with the bike, instead of buying it later.
not too particular about the 47 vs 43mm forks.
6 piston caliper is cool with me. the pads are easier to change and cheaper to boot.
i can handle a tall seat/ground height, and would want the high seat for knee comfort.
it's nice to be able to reset the TPS and clear fouled plugs from the bars, and the newer stator/VR is a plus.
the comfort kit doesnt cost that much
the extra O2 sensor is neat and all, but again; no biggie
ya know, the 3 bearing rear wheel would be very nice ...
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clear fouled plugs from bars? How do you do that? TPS yes, but didn't know about cleaning plugs. I just took the plug out and cleaned it.
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i forget the combo, but it fires the plugs to heat them up and burn off any fouling. i read the how-to a while back ... ... on here IIRC
it was neat, but didn't apply to me then
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so what's the skinny on the XT? it comes with luggage, and what else?

found a '10 in vegas ...
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 04:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Smaller forks, you know that.
Lower overall seat hight, know that.

Shorter rear spring.
Pirelli Angels/Strads instead of Syncs.
Taller wind screen.
Different front fender. - No beak.
XT's have the same steering lock as the 06 & 07's. The X's have a greater steering lock.


Hepco & Becker Luggage:
XT - Journey OEM
XP - Outdoorsman/Junior OEM
X - None, but either could be ordered.

Might be missing something, but that's it off the top of my head.

How much for the 2010? What kind of deal?
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 06:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

asking 7500 for the '10 XT, with just 4k on the clock

im thinking that i'd rather keep it on the cheap and get a beak and the big-boy suspension/seat-height

so 08+ non-XT for the VR/stator, suspension and hot grips, new-ish DDFI, beak, and hopefully it comes with luggage and comfort kit.

please keep addding to this thread. it's not dead til ive got a uly in my shed
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Given the choice, definitely try and find something with the latest cam cover mounted oil pump... that was 09, right? I think they also got a much stouter bottom end. It'll probably run forever.

But don't rule out the older bikes. I was looking at the 09's and up, until I came across an 07 with side cases and 10k miles for $5k. I'd have been a fool to pass it up. The fact that it was 500 miles away was a bonus. : )

20k on that 07 now, and it has been utterly drama free. Broke a front exhaust strap (which was likely reused by previous owner when touching up paint... no big deal, I reuse them a occasionally also if I don't happen to have a spare on hand), and it has a familiar little "hic" about 1.2 miles past my front door while it's warming up. Otherwise, its perfect!

I originally wanted an XT, but I like the really tall bike, and now that I have cranked the preload up to "really firm" it handles really nicely (though doesn't wheelie as easily... no doubt a good thing for me in the long run), and I'm thinking the non XT version probably was a better choice for a tall adventurous guy like me.

It isn't quite the scalpel my 05 XB9SX was... I could split a dime and change any line to any other line just by thinking about it. But at the end of the day I think I can probably hustle the Uly through a curvy road as fast or faster as I ever could on the 9sx. I could probably wring a little more speed out of the lightning on a track day, but I don't do many of those, and am not really interested in moving out of Novice anyway, so the Uly actually would probably be more fun on the track (wonder if they would let me leave the side bags on? It would look really cool...)

So I'd say they are all awfully good... and I think you should probably snatch what you can while you can. It is so cheap for such an incredibly good bike... Even if its the "worst" one, the 06, you are probably only a $200 Erik Buell Racing ECM away from making it nearly as good as the pre 09 bikes. And frankly, all the bikes would probably benefit from that $200 ECM anyway so you aren't wasting that money. I think the suspension was marginally worse in 06, but again, thats probably just a $200 to $500 problem for RaceTech to solve, and at the end of the day you will be $200 to $500 in value over the newer suspensions anyway because it is tuned to exactly what you want.

Heated grips are easy on any bike as well, and frankly I think the Polly heaters are a better solution then the factory setup anyway. With the polly heaters, you won't be breaking wires, and you can use softer grips, and replace them with those nice enduro grips Al sells.

Oh, and the ROX risers were added by the previous owner, and throughtfully left on when I bought it instead of going back to stock and selling them on ebay. I'm a cheap skate, so I don't know if I would ever have ponied up for them, but now that i have them I love them and think they were worth every penny somebody else paid for them. ; )

(Message edited by reepicheep on January 28, 2011)
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm all of 73 inches and 220 lbs.
was there any 09/10 X's or was it just the XT produced?
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A new, unused 2010 XB12X with all 3 bags would be the ultimate score.
I have yet to find one.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>asking 7500 for the '10 XT, with just 4k on the clock

That is a great deal. Best I've seen in a while.
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

agreed. and in thrust blue
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.buellxb.com/Buells-for-Sale/Other-Buell s-for-Sale/2010-Uylysses-XT---4000-miles----8450
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I paid $7,400, might have been $7,450, for my 09XT in racing red. It was a "demo" model with 28 miles on the clock. One year of warranty was already used up, so I only got a years worth, but feel I got a great deal.

A 2010 for the same money with 4K on the clock is something I would have been All Over. And I'd Love to have thrust blue plastics!
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well its best not confuse year of registration with build year for a start. All X and XTs with the new timer cover are the last version of the bike and the late EU bikes have CATs and smaller headers.

The 47mm forks are serious overkill and all the 43mm forks need is a little heavy oil and is fine, GREAT, for the road.

The later bikes have more steering lock but the previous version is fine once you get used to it.

You need to treat it as a "naked" bike and big screens do not, yes I am sure it works for some, help much. I have tried.

You need a dealer or ECM-SPY to reset the TPS on the early version but ECM-SPY also allows access to the ECM if needed. With the latter bikes, I think, everything can only be done through HD and they will make you pay big time.

The 6 pot caliper is fine with the right pads, as is the rear, but not with the OEM pads.

Its the hand guards, not the beak, that causes the steering flutter, 80 MPH plus, at speed IMO. I have taken mine off and have no problem at 120 MPH. In fact the bike is really solid on the road.

All X/XT bikes have the late oil pump drive mod.

The double, belt side, bearing mod is a myth and not worth worrying about IMO. Other factors, human, are the problem.

The later bikes also have a engine breather mod. POV or some such but its easy to do your own on the earlier bikes.

Being in the EU I would replace my 06 X with the same. As has been said its a good base bike and with a few minor mods is VERY good.

The main thing, like any bike, is the history. A Buell, but more so than most modern bikes, needs to be run in right.
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Lloydxt
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But isnt the XT a better sport tourer than the X is an adventure bike?

17 inch front wheel and all?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matt - mine started out a Thrust Blue, 2009 XB12X, but she just got Loretta's old black airbox.
Finally got a Kick-Ash cover for Loretta this Christmas.

The Uly's all black now except the flyscreen, so she's been re-named Bluenose.
At least that fits the recent weather... really it was the name of an amazing fishing Schooner out of Nova Scotia IIRC.

Anyway, get the later model with a decent turn-radius.
I was putting an 06 away at work and almost fell over, the radius is so big.

The Journey bags are bigger, but will break easier, PVC or Styrene, not sure but fairly brittle.
The Outdoorsmans are smaller(thinner) but made of polypropylene so they sustain impact better.
Journey will hold a case per side, Outdoorsman holds 2 12-paks of soda stacked

I've fallen over 3 or 4 times now playing in dirt and mud and the bags don't have a scratch.

Also, for luggage brackets, get the ones that latch in the rear vs. old Odysseys that latched in front.
You have a lot more options for luggage upgrades as any Hepcoe-Becker bags will fit.
Mrs. Crusty (Terri) has a set of oversize Outdoorsman panniers that I was drooling over at Homecoming.
Hope I got the names right for the 2 lines of luggage...

Maybe I got lucky getting Frank's ex-bike but this Ulysses is the BEST All-Around Motorcycle I have ever owned, I love it!

Zack
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any X/XT is a superb touring bike.

All versions have the stronger wheels.

Luggage. Expanding tail packs work fine and you do not need to use the OEM bags.

With a few mods you can use the Ventura system and many others.

The main point of this bike, unlike many, is that you can adapt it in so many ways and cheaply as well.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 2010 with the dual O2 sensors, one for each cylinder would be my choice. I have no issues with my '09, it runs strong! But I think the dual sensors are a huge improvement and some protection in the case of an intake seal leak on the front cylinder.
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Rkc00
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is my 09 XB12X


Started out as a Thrust Blue X. Swapped out the Red XT body work, 06 high seat and high windshield that was on my 06 X at the dealer before leaving. Swapped the Stock 06 Bag brackets and the Hepco Becker Gobi bags and top case that were on the 06 X I had traded in. It now has a 2010 Engine with silver hotjet coating on the headers and muffler. Hope it will stop the rusting of the muffler. Why I have a 2010 engine is another story for another day.

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