| Author | Message | ||
     Guard_rail |
It's that time of the year again. Time for some new brakes. Any suggestions or things to look out for? | ||
| Anonymous |
Buy Erik Buell Racing stuff. It works, has been proven at the highest level, and any profits go towards bringing back an American sport bike! | ||
| Jdugger |
street or track? | ||
| Nillaice |
EBC HH FTW | ||
| Guard_rail |
Street. | ||
| Guard_rail |
Didn't see rear breaks on ebr. | ||
| Jdugger |
So, are you just asking what rear brake pads to use? | ||
| Guard_rail |
Yeah jdugger. I need new rear pads, but I plan on doing the fronts as well. Are the ebr 2015 compound fronts, ceramic? And do last long for the $185 | ||
| Jdugger |
For the rear pads, I'd get OEM ones. The aftermarket pads I know about don't have the little wire spring on them, and that's what breaks! I've never worn through a set of rear pads, but I've broken a couple of those little wire clamps with regular wear. Eventually, the little hang pin on the caliper itself wears out and you replace the rear caliper, too. For the front, I can't really recommend the Erik Buell Racing pads for street, though I'm sure plenty will feel otherwise. Maybe the Performance Friction would be OK, but the 2015 fatbacks like to be pretty hot, and they are a race pad, after all. The EBC HH are $50 a set, and they make a decent pad for street applications, so you might try that. | ||
| Dannybuell |
American Sport Bike has brake parts/pads too. | ||
| Guard_rail |
Are the oem ceramic??? | ||
| Jdugger |
Stintered, I think. I don't think any of the pads for the 1125r are ceramic, but I don't know for sure. | ||
| Drawkward |
I'd personally recommend using your feet to stop over EBC HH pads if you'll be using them on the track. (Message edited by drawkward on January 19, 2011) | ||
| Ysracer |
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| Froggy |
Guard_rail, how have the stock pads been treating you? | ||
| Ratbuell |
I'm with Froggy here. I seem to be saying this a lot...but why reinvent the wheel if you don't have to? If it ain't broke... ...I'm out of stupid platitudes. I do know, I changed my Uly over to Lyndalls up front and get a lot more fade now than I used to, especially riding hard, 2 up and loaded. Stock pads never faded on me. Stock pads will go back on when I use the Lyndalls up (it's winter, I'm not pushing all that hard and certainly not 2-up right now!). | ||
| Drawkward |
The stock pads also faded about as bad if not worse than the EBC HH pads on the track in my case. I plan on running the EBC Extreme Pro pads like JD has, finned 5mm rotor, updated hardware and the ever present RBF600. I'm so incredibly sick of having inferior braking parts on this motorcycle. I bet the EB R pads are great, but I can't shell out more money for god damned pads than the rotor itself. That just doesn't sit well in my stomach. | ||
| Jdugger |
> EBC Extreme Pro pads like JD has I've gone to the Vesrah XX pads on my race bike, and run the EBC Extreme Pro on the B bike. I tried the Performance Friction pads and actually prefer the EBC Extreme Pro by a decent margin, even though they throw a *ton* of dust. I really like the Vesrah, but they are just stupid expensive. All said, though, O.P. asked for a street pad, and in particular a rear pad. So, I suspect we need to be thinking about a low-temp, casual use/wear pad for that application. | ||
| Froggy |
I was mostly curious of his experience with the stock pads and what he was looking to gain out of different pads. I'll eventually pick up the EBC HH's to see how they feel for me. Worst comes to worst, I hate them and will give them to someone. | ||
| Ezblast |
My next pads are definitely going to be Galfers, my own experience with them has been nothing but confidence inspiring, and amazing how gentle they are on the rotor. EZ | ||
| Ratsmc |
I'll throw my money at Erik Buell Racing whenever I can but the standard pads are almost as much as the caliper itself. How can that be justified? I'm really not taking a stab at Erik Buell Racing here, I'm just really baffled by the price. | ||
| Jdugger |
> the standard pads are almost as much as the caliper itself The OEM pad is actually a pretty decent brake pad. It's not a full on race pad, but it will do a track day for most riders well enough. There's also dealer margin in there, and so on, so yea, at $120 a set (or whatever they are) it comes off as pretty expensive. I ran the OEM pad when I had a street bike and in the canyons liked it well enough. I think that fancy red caliper on the Erik Buell Racing site comes with a set of OEM pads. I'll split it with you: you keep the pads, send me the Caliper  | ||
| Stirz007 |
Apparently the 6mm rotor is now out of stock according to the HeeBeeArr site, but a new 6mm drilled and finned version will be replacing it. Any 'pre-release' experience with this one?? JM | ||
| Cataract2 |
What is the advantage to the 6mm over the 5mm rotors? I know that stock we have a 5mm one. | ||
| Jdugger |
> What is the advantage to the 6mm over the 5mm rotors Better heat handling as there's more material. | ||
| Cataract2 |
That's kinda what I thought. Hm. Well, when it comes time for me to replace them then I will probably go with 6mm. I haven't had any heat issues with mine, but eh, upgrades on things like brakes are never a bad thing. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
EBC Extreme Performance HH is a great choice for both street and track. It is worth the extra cost over "basic" EBC HH. I now use these "extreme performance" on all my motos, and they are definately an upgrade over OEM. Even on my Duc's 749 Brembos, which has a good OEM brake reputation, the EBC extreme offered a big improvement in stopping power. And it was the only pad that did not give me any "fade" on my 6pot ZTL. OEM, Braking, Lyndalls all gave a lot of fade on the ZTL. EBC "extreme" gave me no fade. Impressive pads. | ||
| Drawkward |
JD, if the 6mm gives better heat handling, does the 5mm finned have even better heat handling than that? I know that's the one you recommended to me... | ||
| Jdugger |
> f the 6mm gives better heat handling, > does the 5mm finned have even better heat handling than that? Depends on which 6mm rotor. It's back to Lawineers (sp?) comments in the big finned rotor thread. The 6mm rotor simply has more material. So, it requires more heat energy to get it to critical temperature. While any brake system that takes on more heat than it can dissipate will eventually fade, the 6mm vs. 5mm rotor, being heavier, will take longer to get there. The 5mm rotor has a feature, fins, that help it more effectively dissipate heat. So, though I have absolutely no data on this, it's reasonable to guess the 5mm finned rotor performs comparably to a 6mm flat rotor because the 5mm rotor's fins help shed heat, so having less mass is less critical. So, there's two factors here: the rate at which the rotor can shed heat, and the mass outright of the rotor, which "determines how much heat the rotor can hold". Bad descriptions, I guess... I'm not an engineer. The 5mm rotor's big advantage is is weight. It ways a fair bit less. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the 6mm rotor has a durability advantage, but I don't know. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Jim - I'm curious, have you looked into a front fender like Pegasus Racing has with a big scoop on it?  Z |
