| Author | Message | ||
     Jersey_thunder |
hey guys, i been on badweb for awhile now and seem to see the same thing over and over... mental masterbation....let me explain.... whats the BEST exhaust....tires.... gas...tune...levers....brakes...bla,bla,bla... bottom line is...the 1125's are bad machines STOCK !!!! and i would be surprised if most use 50% of this bike...street or track... take some advice...TRACK DAYS AND SUSPENSION SETUP are the best investment for your bike...the bike will tell you when up grades are needed...if you truely want to experience BUELL.......SET YOUR SUSPENSION UP, ADJUST WHAT YOU HAVE...AND TRACK DAYS.... THEN WORRY ABOUT OLINS/PENSKE/BREMBO/CF PARTS/Erik Buell Racing TUNE&EXHAUST...ETC JT | ||
| Froggy |
I couldn't agree more to this, hence why my bikes mainly have only functional changes like tire pressure systems and luggage racks. Get out there, ride it and enjoy it!  | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
froggy, been awhile...good to hear from you | ||
| Sprintst |
You are perfectly right, and I've seen this in virtually every hobby. Several factors that cause folks to chase "the best" parts. - easier to buy parts than obtain skill - easier to buy parts than take training - security of knowing your equipment can out perform you. Ensures you have room to grow - security of knowing you have the best parts, so if you don't perform, you know it's you (yes, can be hard to face) - pride of having the best - bragging rights - e-peen (Message edited by sprintst on January 14, 2011) | ||
| Ezblast |
Erik Buell Racing ignition on my stock bike makes it smoother lower. The GPR is a safety must, it only takes one slapper to go bad - a nice ounce of prevention; sliders and bar ends, grip hand guards like Acerbis sells - those are next down the line - besides new tires, and a shim kit - lol EZ | ||
| Avalaugh |
Sprintst has hit the nail on the head, for most of us bikers it's just a hobby, hence why we like to tinker and buy stuff for bragging rights and our own amusement, a car is more than likely a necessity hence why most folk just put gas in them and drive, do you drive your car to it's limits ????? Didn't think so. I agree that 90% of bike owners machines are more capable than its riders, but that's half the fun isn't it ? | ||
| Kicka666 |
Jersey I could'nt agree more..my Cr is fully loaded with race ECM pipe , carbon & bling bits, but she is my sunday ride if the sun is shining + I wont get another if I bin it... Hence having a dedicated track bike with no fuss looks, suspension valved to suit my weight & riding style & a few go fast goodies. If I come off oh well get the fiber glass out & a can of flat black paint off I go again..  | ||
| Parrick |
I'm sorry but I just have to jump in this... Please recognize that that "Mental Masturbation" sword cuts both directions. I too have been on here for a little while and one thing I have noticed on several occasions is the "If you don't race, your opinion is invalid" viewpoint. That's a BS attitude. Stop trying to make yourself feel special. Not everybody has the time nor proximity to a track for track days...and some guys are just plain gearhead grease monkeys that like to wrench. There are a lot of reasons to own a sportbike. Some people just like to entertain themselves during their daily commute or prefer a bike that is more reactive in a critical situation. My own daily driver on the off season is a '98 Toyota Tacoma...not particularly impressive...with a boost gauge, a modified roots supercharger, fuel modifications and a laptop controlling the ECU. I get bored commuting so I entertain myself with fuel and timing maps. I never expect anyone to understand it. Usually I answer the "Why" with "Because I Can". Further explanation is typically pointless. I fully understand and support anyone who would want to better their skills on the track. It is an admirable pursuit. But until you are getting paid to ride fast you are just another guy with a hobby. So why should you care if some other guys want to debate the merits of blue anodized bling-nuts vs red? Try to remember that it was a couple of wrench geeks that created that thing in the first place. | ||
| Kicka666 |
Parrick trackdays are my hobby I cant afford to race & to be honest the level of young riders out there why bother I am old enough to be their Dad. I am a gear head grease monkey, we call ourselves spanner monkeys in Australia. | ||
| Parrick |
So what do you call the wrench with the pins in it?  | ||
| Pattio |
Anyone remember Steve Martin in 'The Jerk' ducking a sniper attack yelling 'The cans! They hate the cans!" My observation on this topic is that many motorcyclists really, really, hate having turn signals and rear fender and a visible license plate. I used to spend New England winters hating my turn signals and pondering their demise, until I spent time in some nicer climates and learned that some people spend the money on tires and insurance. I'm at peace with having turn signals now. | ||
| Milt |
This sounds like the beginning of a terrific joke... Anyone got a good punchline? (Message edited by milt on January 14, 2011) | ||
| Zacks |
This sounds like the beginning of a terrific joke... Anyone got a good punchline? In my case "lost" whenever I need it... | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
my point is this....how many upgrade tires and brake pads and have the same stock brake fluid in it? get steering stablizers and have yet to base line their susp... im not saying all the other stuff is useless..all im saying is...these machines are serious ...and MOST would be better of with track days than full penske/olins susp. i track a S1 !!!i freaking love it !!...not the 1125..imo..these bike are track breed machines... basics : 1) upgrade brake fluid and front tube fluid 2) base line susp setup 3) at least 1 track day 4) personal saftey equip. tires?..i have seem more BS on tires treads than i can tell you...i have seen shinkos on the track smoke guys on perellis my point is when the type of tire and exhaust come into play...your starting to truelly RIDE that monster...i have yet to hear someone say " that track day was a waste".. for some of us that can't afford all the "best" stuff...trust me...you probley don't need it ...YET...one day you might don't sweat it...basic stuff...then hit the track...you will thank me just my .02 jt | ||
| Hammer71 |
So whats the best tire to go fast on? | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
depends on what " FAST IS " TRACK FAST/STREET FAST/HAMMER TIME tires don't make the rider... at my level...shinkos would be fine..at race level you would need that level tire to have "the best track tire " for the street is a waste...agree? hammer i need joes number..and i have a piece for you to do...wrinkle black | ||
| Drawkward |
The only thing I'd disagree with is the statement that the 1125 is a bad machine stock. I think they're FULL of problems stock. ECU, heat problems, fuel issues and terrible front brakes to name a few. Some things need to be upgraded...but I think the only way a lot of guys are going to TRULY find that out is on the track. For instance, I never would have known how truly terrible the front brakes are without losing almost all my braking on the track... | ||
| Sprintst |
ALL products are developed with a number of compromises - some due to legal requirements, warranty, price, parts availability, etc... So, aftermarket parts can address those compromises, though you often trade one compromise for another. | ||
| Hammer71 |
Tony PM with number sent. Wrinkle on what. tight S&S style or regular wrinkle | ||
| Mac_inger |
+1 Parrick. Live and let live. Everybody bought this bike for a different reason. Let people do whatever they want with their bike, none of your business. | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
your right..none of my business... its cheaper to learn to ride than it is to look like you know how to ride... and its fun !!! come join us for a track day...if you don't have a great time and have a new respect for the 1125 or any buell ..i'll refund your money.... hammer/matt/dave/mike..and a few other that know me know i'm not joking... i don't care about "mods"...bring it and ride it....and NO, i don't make money off you i do it so people can really enjoy it and see you don't need TONS MONEY AND MODS to do it your call jt | ||
| Jules |
+1 Parrick and Mac_inger My pet hates are "generalisations" just because someone has ONE opinion doesn't make it a one size fits all world. I did the track-days bit years ago, I don't need/don't appreciate being told by anyone how/where to spend my money. I don't need a track day to get the best out of MY Buell, I just need a sunny day and the open road. I don't care if I don't hit every apex, I don't care if I am only using 50% of the bike's capabilities I am having fun and that's what i bought the bike for. | ||
| Jules |
Just to wander slightly off topic for a sec. I had an interesting conversation the other day with one of the younger guys in my club (I'm 45 he's 26), he was explaining why he was such a better rider because of the drag racing, track days and stunts he does whereas all i do is ride reasonably fast on the road. I suppose it is entirely possible that on a track he'd be quicker than me, after all he has a lot more experience on the track. But on the other hand, if we were to set out together on a 500 mile road trip to (for example) Germany, I can guarantee I'd get there sooner, safer and in better shape. I can also guarantee that on the way back I wouldn't be the one to collide with a car because I was trying to keep up with someone with more real world skill. Horses for courses you see.. | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
lmao....ok guys...im done i tried....everyone has there reasons for buying a buell...open road?...not my reasons "I don't need a track day to get the best out of MY Buell"...ok  i hope no one takes this the wrong way...just trying to open some of the guys eyes to ...YES YOU CAN.....and don't need a bunch of money ride safe jt (Message edited by jersey_thunder on January 14, 2011) | ||
| Jules |
Don't get me wrong, i think track days are a great way to learn the limitations of the bike and your skills - and with proper training supervision to increase the confidence/ability. I just don't like being told what the best investment of my money is. We can agree to disagree on the "open road" thing, i know there are quite a few people that can't understand why anyone would buy such a capable track bike and not want to take it to its natural environment. I on the other hand can't understand why anyone would take such a capable road bike and not use it on the road - but then again just imagine how dull the world would be if we all thought alike | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
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| Azxb9r |
I agree with what you are saying if parts are being upgraded just for the sake of upgrading, but parts do wear out, and services need to be performed. If your tires are worn out and you need to buy a new pair, it is perfectly understandable for a person to want the "best" ...however that is determined for the individual. I am one of those that does not need my 1125 to be any faster... I dont even come close to being able to use all it has, but I did appreciate the improvement in feel when I replaced my tires recently. | ||
| Father_of_an_era |
Our bikes and our prerogative. Why tell others what our what not to do on their bikes? We all take the risk of ridding and we all enjoy the thrill of ridding so, I say, ride what you want and do what you want to your ride! People like myself enjoy tinkering with our bikes and want all of performance and safety we can get. GOOD TIMES! | ||
| Jdugger |
I asked for my 1125r to be a bit faster and it came back up 25HP and it scares the shit out of me. Third track day on the bike, on a cold and windy November afternoon, I took 2.5 seconds off my personal best. I can't wait until next season... | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
im not telling anyone to do anything...lmfao !!! some people just don't get it...but thats ok... |
