| Author | Message | ||
     Hillis3 |
My 2009 CR finally had the dreaded stator failure at 6200 miles, and after 2 trips to the dealer it's finally fixed and ready to go. The first trip they ran a diag and came up with a battery failure. They replaced the battery and said I was good to go. I asked if they were sure it was not the stator and they said yes. So I loaded the CR up and came home. I started the bike up, so far so good, and made it about 1.5 miles and the battery light came on and the volts started dropping. I decided to make laps near my neighborhood until the batter died. I should also mention that when I started the bike up it was roughly 30 degrees so I also got the gas indicator and check engine light until it finally warmed up. I took the bike back to the dealership and told them about the gas light issue and the non-charging of the battery (new battery now dead). They kept the bike for a couple of days and here is how those days went. Day 1 - Ran diag on the charging system and found no problems at all, so they just charged up the battery. They said everything was within parameters. Could not duplicate the gas/check engine issue Day 2 - Could not duplicate the gas/check engine issue Day 3 - Duplicated the gas/check engine issue and said they were ordering a new cluster (would not be in for a couple of weeks). - Wahoo, one down one to go. Day 4 - CR still sad and broken Day 5 - Found cluster at another dealer and it was on its way - Wahooooooooo Day 6 & 7 - Sun/Mon closed Day 8 - Here is where things get interesting. They calibrate the cluster to put my miles on it and then install. After the install they go over the bike one more time to check and make sure that everything is working correctly. Lo and behold, the stator is now found to have failed. It's a miracle. Stator now on order (3 to 4 weeks). Day 9 - CR is now cold and lonely Day 10 - Get a call from dealership, they have obviously robbed another dealer as the new stator is installed and CR is ready for pickup. Day 11 - CR is picked up and back home. It is running like new and everything is back to normal. Wahooooooooo The service department I go to is very good and they treat me very well. I find it interesting that the original diag came up with a battery issue but after the cluster change it came up with a stator issue. Mmmmm Oh well, The CR is back home were it belongs and is ready for winter riding.  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Nice! I've been debating getting mine looked at; I get the occasional low fuel / CEL combo. So far I chalk it up to the bike asking me "really? we're going riding? look at the big *24* on my AT display...". But, if its an indication of a real, actual problem besides just a display hiccup that I can live with...I'll get it fixed. If not...more time riding for me  | ||
| Pwillikers |
Hillis, There are many reports of the CEL and LFL coming on and off intermittently. I also have this issue. Please let us know if the new cluster fixes it. Thanks. | ||
| Zac4mac |
"I also got the gas indicator and check engine light until it finally warmed up" Hopefully the new IC fixes that one. There are two failure modes for this problem, sounds like a good call by your dealer. Enjoy any "nice" days, it's officially Winter now. Zack | ||
| Hillis3 |
Joe - I think the faulty cluster was giving false info during the diag. They did the same checks before and after and come up with two different errors. Pwil - I took the CR out when it was 27 degrees and never had the CEL and LFL come on. The new cluster seemed to fix this issue. Zac - Thanks, just trying to make it through the ice in my neighborhood is challenging. | ||
| Bueller4ever |
I would like to know how they diagnose the stator? The proper way is to unplug it with the bike running and check the AC output using a volt meter at such and such rpms. My bike is still at the dealer, second battery lasted about 5 rides. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Zack - 2 failure modes for the LFL/CEL? Is either of them a serious problem, or just a hiccup? I'm not one to sweat little stuff, but if there's the potential for this to snowball... | ||
| Zac4mac |
Joe - one cause is old rev IC firmware checking values after shutdown. That one shows CEL/LFL at startup, lights go out at or near reaching OpTemp. Fix is replace IC with a new one with the current firmware revision. The other is a fuel level sensor(thermistor) going out of design resistance range and confusing the ECM. It manifests as the CEL/LFL combo coming on as the engine reaches OpTemp. If ambient is not too cold, the lights will go out after riding a while and heating the fuel up a little from the engine heat. Fix for this mode is replace fuel pump/sensor assembly. Both instances are "info only" and cause no rideability side-effects. I had a bad sensor(out of range) but my fuel light still came on with ~.8 gallons left, at least as long as it was warm enough for it to go out before the level got low. I went thru 2 Winters with the problem, finally got it fixed last February. Zack | ||
| Daniii |
I get the LFL along with a CEL when it's really cold. I just ignore it. It goes away eventually. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Yep, mines when its really cold too. As long as its only a wonky light and not a potential component failure, I'll just live with it. | ||
| Pwillikers |
The real disadvantage to the erroneous LFL/CEL, and I'm not 100% sure it's related, is that the LFO (low fuel odometer) spontaneously resets its count to 0. It has done so with 10 miles already counted. This means I'm just about totally out of gas with an LFO indicating approximately 11 miles. If I'm not watching and I miss the LFO reset, I'm SOL. | ||
| Johnnys999 |
Its great the bike is "fixed", but isn't the replacement part the same as the failed part? The fix treats the symptom not the cause. Same thing happened to Ducati rocker arms prior to 2002. The replacement factory rockers were the same and they failed too. The real fix was an aftermarket chroming process then ultimately a re-design of the motor. |
