| Author | Message | ||
     Mickeyq |
If I could lean over this far in a turn, I surely would get a nosebleed!  | ||
| Juniorkirk |
i leaned that far over on my xb once going up palomar mountain wearing blue jeans and as soon as i heard my peg start scraping, i nearly sh!t myself. AND THE BIKE STUCK LIKE GLUE!!! | ||
| Zac4mac |
Careful there - I left three front teeth on Mt. Palomar, about halfway down. Got a free noisy ride to Escondido's ER, wife got airlifted to Balboa ICU. We both went back a month later. I have a LOT of respect for that road now. Z | ||
| Smit3833 |
That road is gnarly. I just about ran off the road my first time on there, since then I take it a little easier. Still it was the first place I dragged knees, just about 1 year after I first started riding. I hate the backside of Palomar, there is no guard rail and the road condition is poor. Full race leathers are a must for any aggressive riding there. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
i hate the back side to, the road is in HORRIBLE condition. I remember my first time up, over shot 2 turns, then took it really slow the next few times up to just learn the turns and steadily picked up the pace. Fun hill.....but if you push too hard, you end up BADLY hurt... | ||
| Smit3833 |
No May angle but its all I got.  | ||
| Cataract2 |
Can't wait to try out some of these European roads here in Germany. Bikes get here on the 21st. | ||
| Rodrob |
I've been working on less lean angle: quicker steering, less lean, more traction, more speed. | ||
| Gunut75 |
I've been working on less lean angle: quicker steering, less lean, more traction, more speed. Yup! +1 I actually don't have many options in SE Wisconsin...... | ||
| Kozy |
Yea Gunut same prob up here NE WI, gotta head west near the border for much better roads. Lacrosse/Black River Falls area is a lot more hillier/curvier. | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
check out the pic of Stoner in the latest Sport Rider. Now that is some lean angle. Or Hayden posting pictures of the scuff marks on the arms of his leathers from his Twitter account. Mind boggling. | ||
| Mickeyq |
We're talkin about real world superbikes anyone can own! That 1125 May rides is not far off from what we ride; when you really compare them.  The MotoGP guys are paid major bucks to ride exotica and scrape it in every turn. I can wear out the toes on my boots, but to lean and wear knee pads--still working on that. | ||
| Catalan42 |
Ya gotta watch out on that Palomar Mtn lean angle, or you'll end up like this guy! Alan  | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
Ive been told by my buddies that I overlean every corner. I could care less how fast I am. My rush in riding this machine is the defying gravity feeling that you get while getting a good lean. I love this pic. Someday I would love to get that low.  | ||
| Catalan42 |
I think this one is even lower!  Here is the original article: http://www.roadracerx.com/blog/internal-ramblings-a-style-of-speed/ | ||
| Xtreme6669 |
draggin elbow! | ||
| Ausxb |
One day scraping my knee would be a thrill let alone my elbow  Just watched Stoner clean up at Philip Island MotoGP here in Aus  and was a good battle between Hayden and Rossi for 3rd. | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
Yeah, as usual Stoner put on a Philip Island clinic. Does he get a turn named after him yet? He should. Great show for third!!! Hayden barely missed out... | ||
| Kicka666 |
Go Stoner 4 in a row well done Nicky & Benny. | ||
| Kicka666 |
 Far from the racers, but all in good fun. | ||
| Duggram |
Benny!?! | ||
| Jng1226 |
Haha! Benny is way better than Speez or whatever pseudo-rap BS style those kidz are into nowadays. Nicky's particular affinity for rap music and "urban" style is a major turnoff for me. | ||
| Hammer71 |
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| Lucky_jim |
That Stoner pic is unbelievable.. wow. | ||
| Xl1200r |
ve been told by my buddies that I overlean every corner. I could care less how fast I am. You should care... overleaning means that when the time comes that you really need to crank it over for whatever reason you might not have enough left. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Big thread on it not too long ago on the Quick Board. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/596392.html?1286209435 My pic here shows that I'm still about 6" from elbow. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=1924256#POST1924256 There was also good conversation on body position and reasons to not override your tires. | ||
| Stirz007 |
"In the early ‘90s, when the style was to really hang off the bike, there was a lot of variation as each rider searched for the body position that would best aid their machines while cornering. When riders of that era are compared to those of today, it makes the body position of modern racers seem almost clinical. Nick Ienatsch—a moto-journalist, former 250 AMA racer, author of Sport Riding Techniques, and lead instructor at the newly minted Yamaha Champions Riding School—offers this summary: “The main reason for hanging off of the bike is to run less lean angle.” A rider can run less of a lean angle while hanging off because doing so lowers the combined center of gravity of the bike/rider combination. “The less lean angle, the more throttle and brake pressure you can use,” says Nick. Because less traction is used for turning or leaning, more traction becomes available for braking and acceleration." - From Link posted by Catalan. For me, the knee drag is incidental, not the intent. For us 200 lb+ guys, we don't have to hang off nearly as much as you scrawny 150 pounders (can you even pick your bike up?). During the turn, I'm actually trying to push the bike a little more upright than the "natural" lean angle, and the hang-off allows me to do that. In most cases, if I hit the line right, I can carry more speed by NOT dragging knee through most corners. Still big fun, though - the sparkies would be cool, but I'm pretty sure there's NFW that you can use them around here - too dry. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Because less traction is used for turning or leaning, more traction becomes available for braking and acceleration. I'm not sure that's correct. Hanging off the bike and altering the lean angle has no effect of the centrifugal force acting on the tires relative to the asphalt, for a given speed. Leaning the bike doesn't "use" any traction, turning does. Traveling at a given speed through a given turn with a given line, lean angle has no effect on how much traction it takes to get the tire to slide. | ||
| Skntpig |
Sparkies are like Mowhawks. I think they come in combo packs... | ||
| Jdugger |
He may have the description wrong, but it is true one can reduce the lean angle required for a given radius at a given speed by correctly leaning off the bike. It's then your choice as the rider to either add speed or retain the safety margin. |
