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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I'm in the market for a set of riding boots for primarily street riding, but would serve for track days. I have a few choices in my mind and they are:

1. Dainese Torque Out
2. Alpinestars S-MX R
3. Puma 1000
and lastly 4. Sidi Vertigo

anyone have experience they can share? I'm looking for around $300 boots, if anyone has any other options I'm open for suggestions.

(Message edited by westmoorenerd on October 03, 2010)
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Crowley
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TCX Competizion S. Goretex lined, so great for the road and have an external heel brace to prevent foot from twisting outside normal parameters. Mrs Crowley is an Orthopaedic joint specialist and says they're the safest boots she's seen on the market.
Not bulky items either, so you can shift around on the pegs when giving the bike grief on the track. I love mine.
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Maximum
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Dainese boots. They are very light weight and comfortable. I can easily wear them all day...they have a nice tread with great grip...and provide excellent feel of the pegs and shifter. Because of the light weight...I would not use them for long winter rides. I normally wear US size 8.5 (regular width) which the Dainese website indicates would be a European size of 41. I normally wear a 42 in European sizes. The length of the 41's are fine...but feel narrow. If I were to buy them again...I would go with size 42.
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Wastegate
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Sidi Vertigo and if I could return them now I would. They are very narrow in the toe box area. It puts pressure on the side of my pinkie toe.

Other than that one complain they are great. I've heard Alpinestars have large toe box,
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Pilot172
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love my Puma's. It's like wearing sport sneakers with perfect fit for motor riding
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Nillaice
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just like with any pair of shoes, you'll wanna try them on before you buy. what fits perfect for someone else may not for you. i like my Frank Thomas boots, but my buddy swore by his A-stars

scope out your local cyclegear, or other moto-store. wear a fresh pair of socks, and spend some time standing/walking around in the boots.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok this same vein does anyone know of a boot that will fit 14EEE? most if not all i have seen stop at 13 and have no options for width.
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Jng1226
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being a gear nerd, I can comment on a few options you've outlined. I have/had the Dainese Torque Out, Sidi Vertigo Race, Sidi Vortice Air and Oxtar TCS EVO (original name of TCX) boots.

The Oxtar/TCX boots are the widest fitting of all three brands. I actually have EEE wide feet so usually have to get a size or 2 up to get the adequate width. I only had to go up a half size with these to get the right width. As Crowley stated, the TCX has some of the best ankle anti-torsion and metatarsal protection. That protection has a flip downside of squeaking when walking and somewhat limited flexibility. I crashed in these boots at Jennings GP at around 70-80 mph and had no injuries whatsoever:



The Sidi Vertigo race was their top of the line boot before the Vortice. I agree with Maximum, this boot has a narrower fit, although the range of adjustment for the calf, ankle and instep are worlds more than any other boot. Sidi has an external ankle anti-torsion system that is not quite as integrated as the TCX and doesn't have the metatarsal anti-hyperextension protection (that's a mouthful!). Similarly to the TCX, it is a bit stiff in regards to ankle flexibility, but it does give strong sense of protection. It delivers too, as I crashed at VIR in these boots at closer to 100 mph with no damage whatsoever (sorry, no pics). The big advantage with the Sidi's is that almost every single part is replaceable, even the sole on the Vortice - which is huge. If you use grippy footpegs, you can wear out your soles in a season. The Vortice's modularity mean they could very well be your last boot. The biggest downside with the Sidi's is inconvenience. All the adjustability (especially with the Vortice) means they take 2-3 times longer to put on and take off than any other boot.

That brings us to the Dainese Torque Out. This story is a bit like Goldilocks and the Torque Out is like the Mama Bear boot for your described situation - just right. The Torque Out has a simpler ankle anti-torsion system than the aforementioned brands, and more flexibility as well. The fit is also in the middle - narrower than the TCX but wider than the Sidi. It has about as much adjustability for the calf area as the Sidi, but using a very simple velcro system for super-quick adjustments whether going over leathers or under jeans. Its got a metal slider on the outside heel, right where you would want it and what feels like substantial shin and heel cup protection. I like them so much I got both the standard and perforated versions.

You can't go wrong with any of the above, but based on your description, I would wholeheartedly recommend the Dainese Torque Out.
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Duggram
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much are your ankles worth?

Sidi Vortice. Nothing but the best.
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Skntpig
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+2 Vortice.

I have the perf and flow air very well.

My buddy has the Vertigo and likes them. I had two pairs of Alpinestar boots and they all have fallen apart from the inside out, including the sole falling off completely.

If you don't mind White and your size is right you can get them for $309 here...They also have Blue/Black Vertigos in size 44 for $249. I'm not affiliated just a happy customer.

http://www.newenough.com/street/closeouts/last_cha nce_bargains/sidi/closeout_vortice_motorcycle_boot s.html
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nillaice- I wish I could try on several of the boots, but no one sells any motorcycle boots anywhere near here.

Everything I've read says that the Sidi's have a narrow toe box, so those are out of the picture for me then. I'm leaning more towards the Dainese Torque Out, found them for $250. Question though is the Pro model worth the extra $.
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Naiguy
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the pumas only cause I got them for one ninety at a cycle gear that got them on a special order return for not
fitting right.
I don't walk much in them.
they took about three days to break in.
they still look brand new
super comfortable and easy to put on.
not covered with a bunch of straps and vents so I like the
clean simple look.
I have worn them in the rain and foot stayed dry even
though they are not water proof.


great boot overall but I only gotmthem cause of the price so I am biased!
Also the boot that one the championship last year.....! LOL
iwouldnt buy a boot without putting yournfoot in it!
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naiguy, so you're saying I shouldn't buy a boot at all then since I can't try any on...
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Naiguy
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its kinda a crap shoot
if ya don't
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J_copeland
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the TCX X-Cube boots.

I like them a lot,comfort and good support.
They look good too.
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The X-Cubes look good for normal street riding, but I want a boot that would go with leathers too...
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i love my oxtars.

and... what does this have to do with 1125 specific discussion??

i think some of us forget where to post threads... and the rest of us seem to forget that these threads should be not replied to except to ask for them to be moved to a more appropriate section.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Naiguy, so you're saying I shouldn't buy a boot at all then since I can't try any on...




Just get them from Newenough, they got hassle-free returns and exchanges. I went through a few pairs of Sidi's from them trying to find one that fits good with my ultra wide feet. I am due for another pair now (3 years and over 100k miles riding year round did them in), so it sure as hell will be easier to order this time! : )


This is what I wear, they are absolutely fantastic
http://www.newenough.com/street/boots/waterproof_r acing_boots/sidi/vertigo_mega_wide_sizes_gore_tex_ motorycle_boots.html
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have these joe rockets and LOVE them! seriously! they are really comfortable, and ive walked in them all day before. Ive had them for over 2 years and they literally SAVED my ankle from being SMASHED on a curb during my first wreck, and i walked away with my ankle barley even sore after SLAMMING it into a curb at 35mph. The toe sliders work well, and the boots hold up GREAT! plus for the price they are a good buy!

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/36/1886/I TEM/Joe-Rocket-Super-Street-Boots.aspx

Jake
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, well I've made my purchase. I ended up finding a great vendor with a good military discount.

So in the end I didn't go with any of my choices... I got a great deal on a pair of A* Supertech R's, can't wait to get them!
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Super tech Rs look like a really nice boot. After you get them broke in post up a review.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aerostich Combat Lite touring boots. Best damned all-around motorcycle footwear out there, PERIOD. Nearly waterproof (just don't use them for fly fishing), tough as nails, and comfortable for all day on your feet (I know... I'm an MSF RiderCoach and spend a LOT of time on my feet).

Nothing even comes close. Don't expect to ride with them the day you get them, though. Wear them as regular footwear for about a week to break them in. Right out of the box they're so stiff it'll be hard to shift properly.
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