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Ezblast
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 12:39 am: |
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Which handles better, quicker in transition, and lean? Expected life average, and foul weather suitability if caught in a rain? EZ |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 04:21 am: |
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2ct's = stick http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/TJoVZhm_YbI/ AAAAAAAAjVw/Zc_aXIPeDOE/s1600/img_3913.jpg |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 10:19 am: |
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Bueller4ever - is that you? Pretty impressive. If so, you are way maxed out on front fork travel. Probably good to dial in a bit more preload as there is no room for any more suspension travel if a bump is encountered at max lean. I've ridden both tires, but not on the same bike so I can't really give an opinion of which is better. I would say whichever you can get a better deal on as they are quite close in performance. Tires this sticky are very close in wear. If you are over 200 pounds and ride aggressively then don't expect more than 3,000 miles out of either. Here is a Ultimate Motorcycling magazine test of the Q2 against other comparable supersport tires (note - 2.16 MB download): http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/gallery/2010_08/ul timate/UMC_Tire%20Test_Aug10.pdf The Q2 had the fastest lap time of the test and the best subjective scores. I'm currently running the Q2s on the 1125R and love them. I plan on running them at the track next month since they're so cheap. I looked it up on the WERA racing forums and a couple people said that local hot shoes had used them to post incredible lap times and that's what convinced me. Sportbiketrackgear.com still has a deal for the Q2s in 120/180 for $209.95 shipped: http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no =7780 |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 11:20 am: |
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Not me, someone riding tail of the dragon. I just noticed that they were michelin pp 2cts. |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 11:25 am: |
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If you zoom in, it looks like he has a zip tie on the front fork, so he's aware of how much travel he has left. It looks like he has at least 10mm after the zip tie. |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 11:52 am: |
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Yeah, I'm sure the guy that can ride like that knows about his suspension. At least, I hope! |
09_1125r
| Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 12:51 am: |
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I have about 100 miles on Dunlop Q2s and they're awesome. I bought them based on past experience with both brands (not the exact same "model") along with input / data provided by jng1226 and a great deal at the time. They stick like glue so far in 50 degree weather. There was a good point made also about the Michelins and the center tread tracking cracks in the pavement. None of that with the Dunlops. I have experienced that with the Michelins. |
Rt_performance
| Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:51 am: |
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Running the mic Pure powers got 5k ish hard mountain miles out of them(one track day). they stick like glue and even in water. They wear even front and rear the same time. Dunlop q2's seems to be a great tire also not sure you could go wrong with any of the mentioned above. If you super slabbed i would look more a Roadsmart's my XB sure loves them 10k rear replaced front looks like it will last till this rear is done |
09_1125r
| Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 03:56 am: |
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I'm with Rt_performance here... depends how you ride. If you ride like the bike is supposed to be ridden, go with the Q2s, 2CTs, or Corsa IIIs from Erik Buell Racing for $100/tire. If you ride for pure mileage, I have no input, go with the higher mileage tires and don't waste your money on the performance tires. |
09xblong
| Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:45 pm: |
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just put on a set of the Q2s , never ran the 2 ct' s but absolutely love the Q2s |
Eece_ret
| Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 03:34 am: |
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2ct's are better than sliced bread IMHO. YMMV |
Carbonbigfoot
| Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 11:50 am: |
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Good results here with the 2ct's R |
09_1125r
| Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 04:33 am: |
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Got a chance to ride the Q2s in rain and hail at the tail end of my commute the other day. No slippage, gave it an extra "goose" on the straight as a test. |
Frontline
| Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 06:08 pm: |
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Has anyone had experience running the Q2's with the larger 190 on the back? had one in our shop but i never got to talk to the guy. but man that tire looked nice. |
Ekruizenga
| Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 06:49 pm: |
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Just got the power lures put 100 miles on them today love the feel, get to try them out next week at suchess and at the dragon cant wait |
Barker
| Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 07:29 pm: |
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Where are these $100 Erik Buell Racing tires? I cant find them on the site. |
09_1125r
| Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:29 am: |
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Barker, email Erik Buell Racing. I emailed them after I already ordered a set of Q2s. I would have bought just a rear if I knew that. That is the price I got for picking a rear up at the shop. They indicated like new or take offs. Those Corsa III's are ridiculously expensive everywhere I looked online. |
09_1125r
| Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:33 am: |
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Frontline, I would stay away from a 190 on the stock rim. I did that on my track bike once and it "wraps" the outer tire around such that the contact patch isn't optimal. |
Thefleshrocket
| Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 04:07 pm: |
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If someone gave me a set of Corsa IIIs for free, I'd still buy 2cts. Not because I have cash to blow, but because the 2cts really are that much better. |
Jdugger
| Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 05:13 pm: |
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> Not because I have cash to blow, but because the 2cts really are that much better. Not a chance. You might get me to admit they are at relative parity, but the 2CT is not worlds better than the Corsa III, it just flops into corners quickly, which a lot of guys like, but isn't necessarily a good thing. For what it's worth, both the Corsa III and 2CT are discontinued tires, so when the back stock is gone... well, you are on to a new tire. The new Pure doesn't have the aggressive triangular profile of the 2CT. |
Thefleshrocket
| Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 08:50 pm: |
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I'm not commenting on outright grip (though I could spin the Corsas with a bit of extra throttle while cornering whereas the 2cts won't under the same circumstances) but flickability and ease of turning is so much better with the 2cts. Now maybe laptimes would be comparable on both tires but I'd wager that the 2cts would be easier to ride. Maybe I should buy a few sets of 2cts so I'm not stuck trying to find a replacement tire. |