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Duphuckincati
| Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 10:35 pm: |
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http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/09/custom-p egasus-race-team-experimental-buell-1125r/ |
D_adams
| Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 10:47 pm: |
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quote:The engine is untouched aside from the improved inlet and exhaust tracts and the addition of an ECU tuned to exploit them. The end result of these modifications is 137hp at the rear wheel. Considering the stock bike is quoted as 140bhp at the crank, that’s nearly a 10-15 percent improvement.
Hmmmm. I thought the race system was rated higher than that. It's about 13% over stock, roughly. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 11:13 pm: |
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The Pegasus Race Team has done some great work. |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 12:11 am: |
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the team adopted a solution similar to that of the Buell XB-RR race bike 1999 Bimota SB8R
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1125rcya
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 12:25 am: |
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One of Pegasus race bikes had a belt?? I wonder if they were trying to prove a point, maybe that this set up would be good for the street as well. Idonno somebody surly will have 2cents for my answer |
Ratgin
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 01:16 am: |
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Im sorry but that Pegasus race bike makes my 1125R look like a swan in comparison And yea i know its not built for looks but sheeese you have to see it to climb aboard. |
Jandj_davis
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 10:59 am: |
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Just when you think the 1125R can't get any uglier ... |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 11:05 am: |
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>>>And yea i know its not built for looks but sheeese you have to see it to climb aboard. I'd suggest a cute Vespa. The Buell, the one that won the AMA Championship, was built to win races, not fashion shows.
quote:where the team’s Buell 1190RR-Bs have secured the championship before the season has even finished.
quote:he is well known as being unequivocally committed to winning. One of his most famous maxims is "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing", although he did not coin the phrase and the exact words he used are disputed. "Lombardi time" is the principle that one should arrive 10–15 minutes early, or else be considered late. His chief scout, Wally Cruice, once said of Lombardi's single-minded devotion to the game: "you didn't talk about anything but football. If you didn't have the facts, he didn't want you to waste his time."
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Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 11:20 am: |
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"where the team’s Buell 1190RR-Bs have secured the championship before the season has even finished. " Good lord, how far ahead do you have to be to make that true? |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 11:49 am: |
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To Jens credit, he does acknowledge in the article that this particular bike was a proof of concept that was focused purely on the functional modifications and not to look pretty. I.e., I think he also thinks it's pretty hideous. At least you don't see it when you're on it and lap times don't have to have picture next to them! |
Skntpig
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 12:01 pm: |
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1992 ZX7-R http://joelord.com/bikes.htm#ZX7R |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 12:26 pm: |
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Thanks Skntpig - I knew there was an even earlier bike that used the snorkel intake through the tank! I loved that ZX7R - that was THE bike back in the day. |
Ensigncrusher
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 01:05 pm: |
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The big news here isn't the intakes themselves, but the fact that they support the entire front fairing, the clocks and the fluid reservoirs. Neither the Bimota or the ZX-7R ever managed that. Ugg, how do you embed an image? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/5008757582_f93 15f0920_b.jpg } |
Jens
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 01:25 pm: |
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But the funnel itself wasn´t my idea: OW 01 in 85: http://www.ge-board.de/hannes/wp/wp-content/upload s/2009/03/fzr-story-4.jpg RC 45: http://www.oliversmount.com/June_2008_Files/June_2 008_Gallery/slides/RC45_Honda.jpg Hals: http://www.hillbilly-motors.com/assets/images/Volk er_Schirmer.jpg Guzilla: http://www.dynotec.de/bilder/Guzzilla-2003/guzzill a2003d.jpg (Message edited by Jens on September 21, 2010) |
Firstbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 01:49 pm: |
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Jens, who needs ALL-original ideas, when there are some already-proven approaches? 'good on ya' for adopting known success & then trumping it with a plus - the structural solution you & Pegasus Race Team are an inspiration !! |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 02:24 pm: |
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Jens - please don't misunderstand, I never meant that you claimed the funnels were your idea. I was quoting the article where the writer said you adopted that from the XB-RR. Good point by Ensigncrusher that the funnels are structural in nature and provide support, that is truly innovative and I missed that. Everyone knows that Jens and Pegasus have done the most to further Buells success on the racetrack for the longest time. An uphill battle that is to be both commended and congratulated! Winning as the underdog is always the best. |
Ensigncrusher
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 02:34 pm: |
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I am the writer Don't you think you're making a relative mountain out of a mole hill here? The XB-RR did use funnels like these and for the same reason, the fuel-in-frame design precludes and easier route. |
Mac_inger
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 02:39 pm: |
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Good to see you here Wes. Things i do in the morning: cigarette badweb hellforleather cheesycam Please pay my respects to Beverly |
Jng1226
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 02:51 pm: |
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you're making a relative mountain out of a mole hill here Isn't that what internet forums are for? I'm not calling you out either, that's just he way I read it. No problem and it was a great article. The Bimota SB8-R came to mind because a few years ago I actually came across one at a drug seizure auction and was shocked to see it. It was even the limited edition all-carbon fiber one. I missed the bidding on it and still kick myself for losing that one. |
Milt
| Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 03:57 pm: |
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Wouldn't that be "internet fora" ? |
Bumblebeetuna96
| Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 03:52 pm: |
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Where can I get those pod covers?! |
2008xb12scg
| Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 04:52 pm: |
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Maybe i'm alone here, but I think the bike is bad @$$!! who cares where the air intake idea came from. All ideas are just building on older ideas. They took a proven idea (the intake) and improved it. But the big thing here is they are still racing Buells, still kicking @$$ and furthering the development of our favorite bike. I always wondered about somebody doing that on a street bike. |
Ratgin
| Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 08:16 pm: |
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Court.. im guessing you didnt read the article. The pic in HFL is of the experimental bike, not the winning 1190. The winning bike looks great the bodywork on the experimental.. not so much. But again as i said it isnt made to look pretty, |
Xtreme6669
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 12:52 am: |
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SICK!! I like it! |
Jens
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 04:06 am: |
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No panic! (-: I absolute appreciate this discussion! If you design a bike like that you must have the strong back to stand the discussions. It polarize of course and I am very happy that Wes presented it at HFL. My idea was not that this bike should be everybodys darling, it is builded as rolling thinktank, following the stock 1125 and their bolt on possebilities. As an example the airintake on the nose is the point of max pressure AND it allow to use the stock 1125R lamp style. The OEM watercoolers are easy modified that any local workshop can do it. etc. Our Team had a very busy and succesful season, including riding the Erik Buell Racing 1190 RR-B from victory to victory. For sure we know what great bike it is. But we also know that parts of the 1190 RR concept are not to overtake to the old 1125. So the experimental story continue, at the german Biketoberfest we will have the rollout of the Stage II Experimental 1125R. I hope you like it or hate it. Anyway as long as it pushes intelligent discussions the bike do the trick (-: Jens |
Lunatic
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 05:29 am: |
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whats the exhaust? looks like you have 3 mufflers on there. i love the metal trim around the tip on the belly pan. |
Rpm4x4
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 08:49 am: |
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I must have odd taste. Am I the only one that finds that bike beautiful? Maybe its because Im a mechanic and find function and simplicity beautiful. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 09:39 am: |
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the metal trim around the exhaust tip of the belly pan caught my eye more than the brackets. Good looking, comforting to know that the bike is evolving in a way that appears to address some basic issues. Those 1190 seats are really up in the air! How much of the bike is ceramic coated? |
Breadman
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 10:54 am: |
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Rpm4x4: I'm with you man. It does look like one helluva bike. Dannybeull: The finish around the exhaust tips were strangely the first thing I noticed on the completed pics. Spencer (Message edited by Breadman on September 23, 2010) |
Chopped_burban
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 04:11 pm: |
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So the experimental story continue, at the german Biketoberfest we will have the rollout of the Stage II Experimental 1125R. WooHoo.... can't wait to see it. I promise to post pics is Jens is ok with that.} |
Jens
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 05:16 pm: |
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Absolute Alan (-: Better, I give you a ride..... |
Chopped_burban
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 05:25 pm: |
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Sweet!!!!! |
Chameleon
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 06:03 pm: |
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The experimental bike looks really interesting... Like something the organic Cylons from Battlestar Gallactica would use. I'd rock it. |