| Author | Message | ||
     Aptbldr |
Wonder how this works; looks simple:  | ||
| Iamarchangel |
I like the linkage better. That Norton has too steep an angle for an upshift. Of course, if it's a smoother transmission then you'll never notice the effort but that would be the trans not the lever. | ||
| Aptbldr |
That's my take: pushing lever up and back would be awkward. Top of my left foot presents repetitive stress injury/pain. It came with the XB. Have lower foot-pegs, varied adjustments of lever, and finally wrapped it with foam rubber. Foam helped, but causes interference, too. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The shifter lever needs a 120 degree bend in it to remove the back motion. It is a simple design and assuming that the shifting is as easy as the 06+ XB tranny was. The real advantage of the linkage is in decreasing lever force by creating a longer lever. I'm seeking (and have found) a shifter lever setup to replace the banana on the M2. The disadvantage of many of the lever set-ups is that you lose the leverage that the banana (even the updated Buell lever). | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
The majority of motorcycles I've owned have had no linkage in the shifter system. Adjustment, if needed, is accomplished by rotating the shifter on the splined shaft. I have noticed no difference in use and/or adjustability between the two systems, except that I prefer the "solid" feeling of a linkage-less design- linkage imparts a bit of "play" or "slop" to shifting. Most of my european bikes have had no linkage, while most of my asian bikes have had linkage. I'd never really thought about it until this post... interesting. It reminds me of the cable vs hydraulic clutch argument- people tend to prefer one over the other. I'll take linkage-less shifters and cable clutches all day... to each their own. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The other problem with that set up is that it doesn't allow for the front to back adjustment for foot size. There would need to be a sliding peg adjustment for the lever as well. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Hmm, I've never had to adjust "front to back" on 25+ bikes- only "up/down". I wear a size 11 boot. Come to think of it, my friend who wears a size 13 boot has never adjusted a shifter "front to back" either. I did buy a Ducati once that the previous owner had installed a "race" shifter that was so long I couldn't fit my foot between the shifter and the peg. I just reinstalled the OEM shift lever and was good to go. Interesting- in this one short post we've touched on two topics that I've never had come up in decades of riding... curious. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Maybe you are the size of the "average" rider the engineers had in mind on the bikes you've owned. I had to adjust both the shifter and brake levers on the 1125 I rode. I wear a size 10.5. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
The more I think about it, I don't see how a linkage could adjust a shift lever "front to back"- at least on the bikes I'm familiar with. On either linkage or linkage-less designs I've used, the shift lever is a single piece with a fixed length- there's no way to adjust that. The foot peg and shift lever are fixed in position, and the linkage adjusts the shifter "up/down", or turning the shifter on the splined shaft adjusts "up/down"- neither moves the shift lever or foot peg forward or backward. At least that's my experience... I'm talking OEM here.. aftermarket rear sets are completely adjustable- and highly recommended I might add... (Message edited by redbuelljunkie on September 12, 2010) | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Old racing habits: I adjust everything that can be adjusted. Yes, I've adjusted toe pieces. Big Hammer can move OEM. Most of the time, the shift is lower/closer to the foot so no linkage is needed. No linkage is preferable. Actually, on some of my other bikes, the linkage was internal. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I'm betting you press up to shift up, down to shift down.  | ||
| Iamarchangel |
I'm betting you press up to shift up, down to shift down. Don't count on that, that's not always been standard. Some people actually like the opposite pattern. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The more I think about it, I don't see how a linkage could adjust a shift lever "front to back"- at least on the bikes I'm familiar with. On either linkage or linkage-less designs I've used, the shift lever is a single piece with a fixed length- there's no way to adjust that. The foot peg and shift lever are fixed in position, and the linkage adjusts the shifter "up/down", or turning the shifter on the splined shaft adjusts "up/down"- neither moves the shift lever or foot peg forward or backward. At least that's my experience... Don't you own an 1125? "Adjustable Levers With rider comfort in mind, Buell features brake and clutch levers that are adjustable for reach. Foot controls (brake and shifter) feature toe pegs that adjust to rider foot size." | ||
| Obiewan |
Get a Buell and end all the confusion. LOL.. JK | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Had a '97 S1, an '02 X1, an '03 XB9R and an '08 XB12R. Test rode an '08 1125R- wasn't interested. Was unaware of the adjustable foot pegs. My next Buell will be an 1190RS... H-D won't get another penny from me. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The 1190 will come with adjustable "toe pegs" as well. This will mean forward, backward, upward, and downward adjustment of the shifter toe peg. Prepare for shifting adjustment nirvana. |
