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Adsva83
| Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 06:02 pm: |
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I'm having problems starting my X1 especially when it's cold out. It will crank and crank, fire maybe a couple times but won't start. I have the stock air box and noticed a lot of oil leaking out of it. I took the airbox cover off and took the snorkel off too, cleaned all the oil off the part of the intake that the snorkel mounts on.. After this I was able to start the bike. Are the head breathers leaking too much into the intake, would that cause it not to start? How do I keep it from leaking so much? |
Slayer5690
| Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 09:50 pm: |
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reroute the breathers. if there's too much oil and its fowling your plugs it could cause a hard start so i would suggest pulling your plugs and looking at them. |
Preybird1
| Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 09:55 pm: |
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Do the XB rocker box mod. And get a catch can and you can collect\catch the oil and be able to see how much is going out. That will keep all that crap out of your cylinders. SEARCH in the knowledge vault for the mod. |
Adsva83
| Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 11:11 am: |
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All of the oil is cleaned off the intake and i put brand new plugs in it. It seems like it's not getting any fuel. The fuel pump cycles like it should when you turn the key on. My TPS has needed reset for quite a while now. Could that be causing it not to start? Is it not delivering fuel on start up like it should? |
Oldog
| Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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sorta sounds like it may be a problem.. after tps reset and general sensor checks fuel filter replacement pressure check are possibly in order.. |
Preybird1
| Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:16 pm: |
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+1 on what oldog said. You can also pull an injector and see if it sprays like it should. I would spray some starting fluid into the intake and if it fires on the fluid it is not getting gas. If it doesn't then it's electrical. |
Kalali
| Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:17 pm: |
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"...After this I was able to start the bike." So the bike starts and then dies right away? If that's the case, try keeping the throttle open by hand and see if continues to run. Sometimes these bikes need a little gas at cold start before maintaining a steady idle. |
Adsva83
| Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:50 pm: |
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My bike has always needed a little bit of gas at cold start, it has never started and idled from cold without some throttle. I spray some starter fluid in the intake and it starts right up. Once it is started I can shut it off and it starts right back up again without any fluid. It seems to be only on the first start up of the day. Once it is started a first time it starts back up again. The longer it sits without running the harder it gets to start. I'll start with the fuel filter and see if that improves anything. I don't have the cable or software to reset the TPS and I hate paying the dealer to do it, but it may be in order. Once it starts it still runs like a scalded dog, it doesn't miss a beat. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 07:53 pm: |
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Do the TPS reset. ALWAYS bring a bike up to spec maintenance-wise, before you try to "fix" anything. Fixes are for when maintenance doesn't do it. |
Oldog
| Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 01:32 am: |
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dont pull the injectors yet, you might try a bit of gas in the inlet and see if you get any thing, after the tps is reset and the idle is adjusted |
Vlightningx1v
| Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 12:13 pm: |
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sounds like you may have filled it with too much oil. Oil in the snorkel is probably from rocker box breathers blow by. |
Adsva83
| Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 11:46 am: |
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I unplugged the hose from the head breathers that connects to the intake snorkel and that has seemed to solve the problem. The bike starts fine again now. |
Kalali
| Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 02:15 pm: |
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If you like to keep your pants clean you will eventually need to route it to either a catch can or dump is somewhere...The bike will be literally spitting from the open breather hole. (Message edited by kalali on September 01, 2010) |
Snowbees
| Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 03:14 am: |
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i intend to route my breather pipe to dump in the muffler outlet, that should blow it clear of the bike |
Adsva83
| Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 08:52 am: |
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I still have the hoses connected to the breathers, I unplugged the end that is connected to the snorkel. Now it is just dumping into the stock airbox, it's just a temporary thing until I get a catch can. |
Vlightningx1v
| Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 10:29 am: |
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Adsva83 you said I unplugged the end that is connected to the snorkel. Now it is just dumping into the stock airbox I would not recommend doing that - more people have found cumulation of breather blow-by sitting at the bottom of there breadbox then leaking on to there header. It can happen in a very short period of time. Even if your oil level is perfect there is still blow by. I am just saying. I cut a little bit of the snorkel to rout the hose, I placed a large plastic vasoline jar that fit at the bottom of airbox velcroed it in place. it had 5 holes 2 for hoses and three small ones for breathing. That worked fine for my temp fix. Look into mounting your air filter in place. This is all cheap, easy and works! The catch can would better when you get one. |
Adsva83
| Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 12:38 pm: |
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It's all temporary just to see if that would solve the problem. |
Kalali
| Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 05:23 pm: |
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You could probably rig up a temporary catch can using a small plastic bottle, e.g., small bottle water, etc. Still better than dumping into the intake. |