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The4ork
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |
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i found a HUGE oil filter that fits on the buell. its from a 1.6 turbo diesel volkswagen. since i have one of these engines in an '82 jetta that im restoring, and i did an oil change yesterday, i was noticing how similar they are. last time i did an oil change i had a hard time finding a filter but had a bosch filter in my garage, decided to see if it would work. spun right on! this time, from my knowledge of vw's, i decided to see if i can fit the fat honkin' diesel filter in it (ive used the diesel filter on my vw gas engines too) and it spun right on with room to spare! took it for a 60mile ride last night and this morning (30mi each way) and no leaks, no oil pressure light, took about 1/2 qt more oil. im assuming the benefits of this will be a few degrees lower in oil temp, due to extra capacity, and possibly reduction in friction in the filter along with increased filtering surface area. ill shoot a picture of it later, if anyone wants the part number ill post it up. |
Fahren
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 12:30 pm: |
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A pint more oil?! I definitely want to see what that honker looks like! |
Spiderman
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 12:32 pm: |
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pics? |
Preybird1
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 12:56 pm: |
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I am running a 5" filter now, But i would put an even bigger one on also. pics? Part number and brand? |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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Should also translate into longer change intervals. Is it long enough to be used as highway pegs for my left leg? |
The4ork
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 01:15 pm: |
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hahaha no i dont think its thAT long ft bstrd lol i just got my new phone in the mail so im syncing it with my pc and activating it. when im done ill snap a pic and post it up |
Fahren
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 01:34 pm: |
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i just got my new phone in the mail so im syncing it with my pc and activating it. when im done ill snap a pic and post it up Reading that sentence, I am struck by how it was not all that long ago that what you wrote would have been total gibberish to us all. Guess I'm Old School. |
The4ork
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 02:11 pm: |
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lol |
Phelan
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 05:12 pm: |
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Ricky, I've been running a filter that size for quite some time now- a Purolator Pure One PL-30001. Allows me to run just over 3 qts in my S2, though I always stop at 3. |
Jim_d
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 07:10 pm: |
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I think I just use one off of a dyna wide glide...it's about 6" long. |
Guell
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 07:30 pm: |
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the dyna long filter holds more, is black, and looks stock. Plus any harley dealer will have one. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 05:29 am: |
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I read on this board that the longer ones are more likely to loosen themselves up from the vibes. Wormgear clamp + safety wire = win! |
Scott_in_nh
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 09:26 am: |
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I run the long Dyna filter in chrome. Looks great, I can get 3 quarts in, costs about $11, is readily available and there is no question about whether it will bypass at the correct oil pressure. I have been using these for almost 5 years, I hand tighten and have never had a problem with the filter loosening up. (Message edited by scott_in_nh on August 24, 2010) |
Jayvee
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 11:38 am: |
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Scott or anyone, have the part number of the Dyna 6" filter handy? Preferably the black one. |
Scott_in_nh
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 12:56 pm: |
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Sorry, I just go to the parts counter and ask for the long chrome Dyna filter and they usually have it on the counter before I finish my sentence! An added bonus I just recalled is that it is made in the USA... |
Jramsey
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:03 pm: |
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I use the black Dyna filter #63812-90 on mine. #63813-90 is the Chrome filter. |
Hotrats
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:08 pm: |
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i've used a ford filter on sportys & buells for a long time. fl1 i think, or maybe fl1a |
Blackm2
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:11 pm: |
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Napa PS1215 is the same as the Dyna filter, and it is made in the USA. Plus you aren't supporting the company that shut Buell down |
Kyrocket
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 02:59 pm: |
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At one time someone posted up a long list of filters that would work, it's somewhere in the archives I guess. I printed it out and taped it to the inside of my manual. Along with other doo dads that also work on our bikes. |
Kyrocket
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 03:08 pm: |
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Here ya' go. Scroll down in both and you'll find the lists. Print it out and stick it in your manual. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/328859.html and... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/450015.html |
Scott_in_nh
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 03:44 pm: |
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im assuming the benefits of this will be a few degrees lower in oil temp, due to extra capacity while we are at it, this is not true. The extra oil will take slightly longer to reach temp, but everything else being equal, it will reach the same temp. Where some extra cooling may come in is the added surface area of the larger oil filter hanging out in the breeze. |
2734
| Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 04:34 pm: |
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What about those slip on aluminum finned covers that hose clamp to oil filters? I've seen them on sand rails and Dune Buggys. |
Eshardball
| Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 07:47 pm: |
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I have one of those cool collars that I bought on E bay. I used an infared scanner to compare my filter temp with my Buddy's filter temp, both on twin cam engines. My filter was almost 30 deg cooler. On a hot summer day, my oil temp is between 210-220 at the tank. I have a filter collar on my S1 as well and take it off when the outside temps get in back down into the 70s. Too cold oil is not good either |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 07:51 pm: |
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I figured the extra quart of oil in aluminum oil tank would be the best route...So I went that way. |
Slayer5690
| Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 08:04 pm: |
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I like using a WIX 51515 on my X1 its about 5 in long and 3.5 in in diameter and I run just under 3 quarts of oil. |
The4ork
| Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 10:07 pm: |
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BTW if you notice in the pic, im in the market for a new V&H elbow! |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 10:13 pm: |
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You also need the updated Y hanger. |
The4ork
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 05:09 pm: |
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what is that? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 05:19 pm: |
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Y bracket. Standard on later model tubers. 2001 and up maybe? http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/17036.html |
The4ork
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 05:38 pm: |
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holly crap $125 for a chunk of steel with a bushing or two? jeeeez |
Fuzzz
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 05:41 pm: |
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One could use 60 weight in their air cooled engines, like the engineers tell ya to in the service manual, when it's really hot outside. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 05:53 pm: |
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what is the part number for that filter? and what is the spring bypass pressure? |
The4ork
| Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 02:19 am: |
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i want to say its 80psi with 15w50 but dont quote me, filter is made by Mahn and the part number is 068-115-561-B / 068115561B |
Zenbiker
| Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 10:47 am: |
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HD makes a cool collar for the short and long filter. It is a chrome plated, ribbed aluminum tube that slides on the filter held on using a friction fit, no hardware is needed. I forget the exact numbers, but think that the added cooling efficiency is something like 5-10%. I run one on both S2s using a dyna filter, usually a black filter (cost savings). HD also has an oil cooling kit that bolts on to the frame and has a little heat exchanger or you can pirate one off of an XB and plumb it yourself. One of the main reasons the twin cam was delayed (99 & 2000) was oil temps, so they have kits in the P&A catalog for this. This was also one of the big reasons that HD brought out the synthetic oil, to better cope with the better thermal properties compared to dino. |