| Author | Message | ||
     Joseb |
First of all, I'd like to introduce myself, my name is Jose and I just purchased my first Buell (1125CR) last Friday, it's a beautiful bike! Now, on to some serious business: I decided to take the CR to work today for the first time, everything was going smoothly until about mile 23/27 when traffic started to back up. I noticed that the temperature (AT on the display) quickly rose to 136, I sat in this traffic for about 5 minutes, staying in first and neutral as we only advanced maybe 40 feet at a time. At around the 6 minute of traffic mark, the bike died on me, I made my way over to the very small gutter and attempted to fire her back up but she wouldn't turn over. I turned the bike off and sat for about 2 minutes before trying again. This time it fired up and seemed normal. I made my way down the road and then about 2 minutes later, the engine light came on, but it still was running normal. At the next light (now no more than 1/2 mile from work) she got really weird, the temp was still hovering around 120-126 and whenever I would accelerate past 2,500 RPMs, the whole bike would stutter and sound like it was about to die. I managed to hit the side streets and made it to work very slowly, as I was pulling into my spot I noticed the fuel light was on and the display said Fuel 1.3, also the engine light was still on and the temp was still around 129. I bought the bike last Friday and it has 5,4XX miles on it, I've only put about 100 miles on it myself so far. Are these symptoms of overheating due to sitting in traffic on a hot day, or possibly fuel starvation? I read that the bike has .8 gallons of reserve fuel, so I assume 1.3 miles ridden on reserve would not start starving the engine. Any other ideas? I do have a 1-year extended warranty on the bike through McHenry HD so I'm planning on calling them up as soon as they open today. | ||
| Joseb |
Here is a quick video I shot in the parking lot that kind of shows what I mean: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joseb552/4881810447/ | ||
| 99buellx1 |
AT is ambient temp, and really dosn't mean much as the location of the AT sensor is a bad location. You need to watch what your actual coolant temp is to know if it really is overheating. | ||
| Tpoppa |
I'm guessing you are referring to the AT (Air Temp) and not the CT (Coolant Temp). It doesn't sound like overheating. If you hold both buttons on the instrument cluster then turn the key to on, you will open Diag Mode. From there you can see the Error Code. | ||
| Froggy |
The AT is meaningless, as it only monitors the temperature of the air going into the motor. If your bike was overheating, it would have a coolant light illuminate on the dash. You can toggle through your menus to see the CT, this is the coolant temperature. Also go into the diagnostic mode (Hold Toggle and Mode down while turning the key on), so you can see what the engine light came on for. | ||
| Joseb |
Excellent, thanks for the quick replies! I'll head out in a few minutes to see if the light is still on and what the code is. I'll report back later. Thanks! | ||
| Puredrive |
On my way home in the last few days.. I have seen 144F AT.. And 212 CT Temp has been hovering in the 100F-102F range here in Austin TX  Forgot to mention..to check Coolant level!! (Message edited by puredrive on August 11, 2010) | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wow ok so the bike died while idling for an extended period of time. my first thought is stator issues. as mentioned above check out the code in diag mode and report back. also could possibly be bad fuel or bad fuel pump. it is efi so once it's running even with the large amount of heat dumped into the fuel the pump keeps enough pressure in the line to prevent vapor lock so that one is unlikely but not impossible. with it being a cr that means 09 or newer so you should be able to cycle through the display while running and get the CT as well as AT and even battery voltage too. i didnt get the battery voltage or gear indicator until they had to replace my cluster | ||
| Joseb |
Ok, I just got out there to take a look at the error code; it was P0087, "Fuel PR Sys Err", (see link for photo) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joseb552/4882676254/ I also called the dealer, they didn't have any immediate explanations (I wouldn't expect them to without seeing the bike). I did fire it up and take it out for a few minutes to fill up with gas, no problems at all on the short trip, no CEL either. Should I have the dealer come pick it up anyway, or do you think it will be OK to ride home later? Unfortunately the dealer will be closed by the time I leave work tonight so if it did act up again I'd be SOL. Thanks for the help so far! | ||
| Xnoahx |
If you are still under warranty I would make an appointment to have the dealer look at it. If you are unsure of your warranty status, you can post your VIN on here and I can run it through H-Dnet. I can also let you know if there are any open recalls on the bike. | ||
| Bueller4ever |
Don't let it run that low on gas. I always fill up at 100 miles. Sucks, but with the frame being the gas tank and the rear header being right under it, it's not a good idea to run on 1 gallon of gas or less, especially in traffic. Add some insulation to the bottom of the frame above the rear header pipe. | ||
| Xb1200rick |
I had the same problem recently . I had only gone 3 miles with the low fuel light. Same error. I know the 1125 fuel level sending unit does not like cold weather , apparently it does not like extreme hot either. I had to push the bike to the gas station. fueled up and the bike ran fine all weekend. I bought gas every 100 miles also just to be on the safe side, I don't like walking  | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
"Forgot to mention..to check Coolant level!! " I've got 2800 miles on my '08 and have yet to check the coolant level. I probably should, but the coolant temp has always behaved what appears to be normally with no hint of overheating so I haven't bothered. If the coolant temp is within normal operating parameters, is it really imperative to check the coolant level? | ||
| Joseb |
Update: After filling it up yesterday I put 50+ miles on her with zero problems, even had in the shop today to replace the rear turn signals and they didn't find anything wrong with it. Thanks again for all the great advice! I'll be sure to not let it get that low on gas again. | ||
| Joseb |
Ok here's a follow up on this issue... I have been riding the bike almost every day for the past month. I am careful to keep it to around 85-100 miles and then I fill her up, sometimes much sooner. It's been hot most days but she has been ok for the most part. I did check the coolant and the reserve tank was bone dry (checked after 10 hours of engine being shut down), so I filled that to the COLD FILL line. Yesterday I took a ride up to Lake Geneva with my brother, no problems on the way there, but after riding around town at 25-30mph for about 10 minutes, she had had it, engine light came on and started revving erratically again. So we pulled onto a side street and let it sit for about 30-45 minutes in the shade. Coolant temp did not exceed 195° from what I could tell. After that it ran like normal and I made it home without further incident. Btw, it was the same error code as above. Then today, I rode to work in the morning on a full tank, and as I'm headed home just now, I notice the whole bike is getting very hot, feels much hotter than before. I'm paying attention to the CT and it's climbing to 215-220°. It's very sunny out but I'm not in any kind of traffic, just occasionally getting stopped at a red light. Once again the engine light comes on and it starts revving erratically. I am now pulled over at a Walgreens letting it cool down again. I'm pretty sure I'm taking it into the dealer this week, unless anyone can think of any other things I am not seeing? | ||
| Joseb |
Any ideas on how to get this out of the archive? | ||
| Froggy |
buuuump | ||
| Joseb |
Thanks for the bump Froggy! I'm starting to get worried about riding when it's sunny out! No bueno. | ||
| Puredrive |
Are you running the latest flash on the bike? double check the coolant. to make sure you are not loosing coolant. (Message edited by puredrive on August 30, 2010) | ||
| Joseb |
I haven't noticed any coolant leaking yet, I'll double check the reserve tank to be sure. Is there a way to check the flash myself? When I go into diagnostic mode the last item when I scroll through says "SW 6.1 CAL 1.0", Is that the flash? | ||
| Puredrive |
I'm afraid that the dealer would be the easiest way. And while you there they can just update you to the latest flash | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
tune it. either e b r or some other option. wont be the same bike. R | ||
| Jules |
SW 6.1 CAL 1.0 No that's the software revision for the IC. Your best bet is the dealer (sad though that is to say) as the error might indicate a fuel pump fault but they'll have to pressure test everything to be sure.. It'll be tough for them to replicate the conditions though.. | ||
| Joseb |
I set up an appointment for next week with the dealer. I'll keep riding (and smiling) until then unless it starts to happen more frequently. Race ECM and frame insulation just jumped to the top of my to-do list... | ||
| Ezblast |
What is your oil level like? EZ | ||
| Joseb |
I didn't ride it to work today, but I just had my brother check it for me. We followed the Oil Level Cold Check instructions from the owner's manual (also here: https://www.buell.com/om/99480-09Y_en/file-6.asp#h dtopic006397) and he said it was pretty much bone dry... Again, I haven't noticed any leaks / puddles so I'm assuming it has been low for quite some time. Stupid me, trusting the dealer to have checked / filled these things! Argh that makes me angry. Anyway, I'll be adding some tonight when I get home. | ||
| Dannybuell |
JoseB - The cold check is worthless do the hot check. | ||
| Joseb |
I'll do the hot check when I get home before I add any oil. Thanks for the heads up Danny! | ||
| Joseb |
Well. Just ran the hot check on the bike. Oil level looks ok now. Gold thing Danny chimed in or of be spending my night draining oil lol. | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
Cold check on mine showed barley any oil on the dip stick. I rode it for 15 miles and did a hot check, it was perfect, right at the full mark. |
