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1125chick
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since these days one can be sued for defamation and libel for expressing an opinion in an internet forum without verification of the facts (freedom of speech?), I'm not going to rant haphazardly. I am conducting research on the clutch "weep" and whether or not there was a safety recall ordered. I did not receive a recall card in the mail. Did anyone else?

For any of you "cleared to ride" with the clutch "weep," I discourage you from riding as what appeared to be a clutch "weep" on my bike was in fact a major leak causing the vehicle unsafe to operate. Careful out there...

Keep you posted on my research.

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J_copeland
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No recall or card.Dealers know this is a problem.I guess it depends on how bad the leak is would determine if it's unsafe to ride.Mine,at this point while waiting on parts is just a weep and not a leak.

(Message edited by J_Copeland on August 11, 2010)
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Chevycummins
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't remember ever getting a "recall notice" for my clutch leak. I'll have to check my files. I think it was a "tech tip" as HD calls it.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was no recall, hence you didn't get a recall card.

Also, I rode over a thousand miles on my bike with a leaking clutch without issue, just had to top off the fluid once.
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Puzzled
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I road mine until the parts came in. Common sense told me to keep an eye on the fluid level. No issues what so ever.
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Spank
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of my concerns are, after this happened in my own garage with my other bike, is what happens when you pull your clutch in and squirt dot4 brake fluid all over someones car or bike? Guess I will be left paying for that myself as well!
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Puzzled
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm curious how that could happen with the cover on?
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Spank
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Out the weep hole.
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Jpinkerton
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It definitely happens once the puck fills up completely. I have had the clutch fluid shoot out of the weep hole because I had the puck spun so that the fluid would not leak out.
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Brumbear
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am contacting Germany now and trying to get a mercl freudenberg order if I do seals for everyone!!!!!!!
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just turn the puck Upside down so the weep doesn't leak and explodes hot clutch oil on the fat "Tech" that has to fix it!

I noticed on my new puck that the weep hole is no longer at the bottom but is now on the side...



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Midevil_train
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No recall notice sent to my house. I should be picking mine up tomorrow from the dealer. I cant wait to see what parts were actually replaced.
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain america, you sticker is sideways, lol!

If you call a buell dealer, they should know about the leak, it's common as the day is long and they should order the parts without seeing the bike. Tell them you know this is a common problem.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lol@ Captain......priceless.
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Black
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain, you are a funny funny man! I'm with Froggy...rode many many miles with the leak. No big deal. Just added fluid. However, for all you lawyers out there.....I recommend you do not ride your bike....check yourself into a mental health institution because of all the extreme stress......and sell your bike immediately.....and really cheap please.....I know somebody who needs a track bike really bad!
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Buellishness
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is that a leather jacket or arms.... ahahahaha

no leathers no jacket no helmet

hmm...........

please sell your buell like the other guy said you dont deserve a buell, it is a privilege to own one I can deal with a few imperfections

common sense goes along way!!!!!!
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Pariah
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have developed the weep at around 6000 miles, but don't know what to make of it exactly. Is it a serious problem, or not?

Who do you trust, some guy on this forum who says "it's OK" (very rigorous testing indeed) or Harley-Davidson (which I can see investing money into investigating this problem further--- not)? We've got great choices, these days.

I look forward to what you find out 'chick.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't care about a weep but mine was kinda gushing and I was afraid I would need a boat load of fluid to go for a ride. I am gonna expierement with some different seals this week see what I can come up with
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Is it a serious problem, or not?




Depends, but in most cases it has been a dribble or slight leak. Eventually you will pump out all the fluid, but you would be able ride without issue, just periodically topping off the fluid. In some cases it is leaking too much, and I wouldn't recommend riding it far. The bike isn't hard to ride without a clutch in a worst case scenario.
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Captain_america
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I call it the self bleeding clutch system...

@Bueller4ever, Holy Sh*t! I never even thought that maybe someone just screwed up putting the sticker on... I figured it was intentional.

From what I remember (about 4-5 months ago) my leak was not bad enough to stop riding. It started leaking @ 4.5k and rode it 2.5k before it got updated. I rotated the puck so the weep hole was at the top and only had to empty it twice.
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Jpinkerton
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mechanically it is safe to ride the bike so long as you ensure the fluid is constantly topped off.

Personally I am not really trying to ride my bike while having my boot and rear brake lever covered in clutch fluid. There is nothing like going to apply the rear brake and having your foot slip off because its drenched in clutch fluid.

I am definitely looking forward to getting my bike back. HD customer service said the dealership found a kit somewhere and it should be on its way to the dealer as I type.

(Message edited by jpinkerton on August 12, 2010)
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I got seals coming Monday I will install them and see what happens. I opted to get higher heat durability on the seal material. I know this will not be the cure all but I am hoping it will last longer than the original if not hey I spent $25.00 on dumber things
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Spank
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's cool Brumbear...let us know if it works.

I had talked to Michael when I was at E.B. Racing a couple of week ago, they have a fix as well. If the parts don't come in in time, I am going that route!
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clutch on mine has been fine since last year, maybe 10k miles since the last fix.

I need to find me some Motul RBF 600 brake fluid soon. New pads, rotor, hardware, etc.
18k miles and counting on the stock rotor, it's clunking a little more now than it used to when I hit the brakes and it's not the forks making the noise.


(Message edited by d_adams on August 12, 2010)
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Pariah
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike isn't hard to ride without a clutch in a worst case scenario.

How would you get going from a stop sans clutch? Neutral -> First, give it some gas? Sounds rough...
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

run forest run!!!!!!!!
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Avc8130
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Erik Buell Racing needs to get that fix up on the website! Warranties are running out and people will need to fix this crap again!
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Jpinkerton
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, what AVC said!
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The clutch repair kit is not just new seals, it's a whole new cylinder and piston assembly.
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Pyrogen
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 03:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would converting it to a cable clutch help or is it not actually related to the fact that its a hydraulic clutch? I found a few dribbles on my clutch cover too, but it doesn't weep constantly, seems kind of random. Is the random dribbling due to the hole not being at the bottom?

(Message edited by pyrogen on August 14, 2010)
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