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Puzzled
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:43 pm: |
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Anyone have a little more indepth idea as to what that is? I understand it is the front 27 tooth pulley. I suspect based on the term "compensating" that it is set up to act like a compensating nut on an HD or similar to a cush drive on a Import sportbike/Newer Harley Bagger. When one goes to a chain drive this function is gone. Any idea how this would affect the belt if it were gone? |
Puzzled
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:45 pm: |
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Giving some thought to it the XB's are non cushioned (that I know of) as are Harley's. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:45 am: |
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Neither of which comes anywhere near the 1125 in terms of gearing and performance. |
Xnoahx
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:11 am: |
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Twin Cams put out more torque than the 1125 and weight a hell of a lot more. Seems like that would stress components more |
Puzzled
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 07:40 am: |
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Xnoahx, your thinking along the same lines as I am. My TP 124" makes a LOT more power than my Buell and does not have a compensating anything anywhere. It is all direct drive. On the flip side my Softail and Bagger both have front compensating nuts. I would think that a compensating assembly would soften the initial blow to the the drive line when the clutch is engaged. A direct drive will hit harder increasing the chance of broken belts/chains. Than again quality components will take a lot of power. Just thinking out loud here... I'm going to take (cut) a front pulley apart later to see what makes it tick (this was planned)! |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 08:36 am: |
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I am still looking for it, there was a video a while back of a Rotax engineer discussing the 1125 and talking about the special front pulley among other things. (Message edited by froggy on August 10, 2010) |
Puzzled
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 08:49 am: |
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That's cool. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 11:25 am: |
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At $400+ from E-B-R for a take off I sure they be rebuilt. |
Boogiman1981
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:41 pm: |
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makes me wonder how much they are new being as though they are $485 at E-B-R |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:01 pm: |
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quote:makes me wonder how much they are new being as though they are $485 at E-B-R
$1010.64 (Message edited by froggy on August 10, 2010) |
Blk09r
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 02:49 pm: |
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Holy crap! I think I'd spend $2k for the chain conversion kit before I'd spend $1K for the pulley. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 03:21 pm: |
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That's the idler assembly. Does the pulley come with that? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 03:22 pm: |
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The compensated drive sprocket I mean, not the pulley. |
Xnoahx
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 06:46 pm: |
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That blows my mind that it is over $1000 for that. The rubber isolators are $71 for the set (Message edited by xnoahx on August 10, 2010) |
Aj2010
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 08:10 pm: |
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Oh boy ..... I feel good now. I bought an 08 flywheel on E-Bay and figured I'd pick up the pulley from the same seller at the same time .... I think I paid $18.95 for the pulley 'cause I thought it might be expensive and eventually the teeth would wear. OK, good deal. |
Puzzled
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 09:47 pm: |
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To seperate the two halves of the compensating sprocket the ring that keeps the belt from walking has to be slid down.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 09:49 pm: |
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This is what you will find inside, the equivalent of a cush drive. On mine all of the rubbers were broke.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 09:51 pm: |
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Boogiman1981
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 12:44 am: |
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so that's where they hid the flux capacitor. JEEZE man $1k for that seems a bit on the steep side. anybody know what about it makes it worth a grand? |
D_adams
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 01:15 am: |
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That accomplishes the same thing as the rubber isolators in the rear wheel/sprocket on most japanese bikes. Might make the wheel a little lighter overall, but not by much. Mike, what made you decide to take yours apart? Was it having problems of some sort? |
Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:29 am: |
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I ordered a front trans pulley as well as 3 different tooth pulley stocks. My intentions are to make a "Quick change" front pulley. I will make 27, 26 and 25 tooth setups. The 27 will give me stock R gearing while the 26 will put me in between the R and CR gearing and the 25 will get me real close to the CR gearing. |
Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:30 am: |
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:31 am: |
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Heavy! ..and this is rotating mass.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:33 am: |
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I used a cut-off wheel to remove the lugs that held the cush drive. The material is hardened but not to the point where it could not be cut.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:34 am: |
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Turning down the diameter which will serve as the outside retaining ring for the new pulley.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:35 am: |
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Finished that and now on to cleaning up where I cut the lugs off.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:36 am: |
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A few passes to insure that the surface was flat and square to the outside lip.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:37 am: |
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The pulleys were cut to match the original width of the compensating sprocket. As you can see there is a difference in diameter from the original center hub and the pulley center hole. There is also a height difference from the mounting flange on the pulley stock to the original cut up piece of compensating sprocket.
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:39 am: |
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Turning down a piece of stock to make the spacer needed to close up all of the differences.....
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Puzzled
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 07:40 am: |
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The spacer dubbed the "retaining ring".
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