| Author | Message | ||
     Ezblast |
Get a universal 3" Suppretrapp and 21 discs and mounting (their cheap comparitively speaking ) you just remount - thru their universal mounting and conectors - lol - Its what Crossroads and a few others are running on headers who's can has gone south - lol - You could always try bolting on one of those aftermarket cans as well - Fox, Akropov, endless list - you have a very superior head pipe to work with;0) - Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ  | ||
| Blastoholic |
Erik, I see this happen alot to most White Bros.pipes , and also see the lower front mount crack at the weld. This is the only reason I didn't go with the White. It's funny, I never heard Lorraine/Additude complain yet. But man you should see the repairs that my friend Michael Myers has made to his White Bros.  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Thanks ED & Ralph. Ed I have only seen supertrapps at $200+.If you know something cheaper? Spending $500 on an exhaust for a 'cheap' bike is beyond me.I'll probably just throw cheap mufflers on it till the headpipe breaks or make something custom.I'm determined to get my $280 out of this system.And since I'm real close to the factory I'll keep bugging them for cans! BTW they only warranty their Harley systems for 90 days!! | ||
| Ezblast |
The supertrapp universal 3" offroad can with stock 12 discs - add 12 more and muffler insert(U could skip and get the Bub effect) is a total of about $70.00 mounting parts extra http://www.supertrappind.com/& http://www.supertrappind.com/Universals_page/universals.htm - hope this helps! Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ  edited by ezblast on August 20, 2003 | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Thanks. | ||
| Ezblast |
In all honesty - when the Bub first came out it had a terrible rep - they fixed those problems, however, I wanted to be prepared and that idea had be tossed out there and so I researched it just might go with it if anything ever does go wrong - lol - no problem! Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
So, yeah, as expected I got a new 'can' from WB.Leaks out the front just like the 1st one did before I warranteed that!I guess this will be another part I'll be re-engineering....sigh...! Thats what I get for buying top of the line! "original replacement" "bolts right on" "everything included" "installs in minutes" lol! | ||
| Newt |
Are you using any type of sealant where the can meets the header? I'm assuming that when you say, "leaks out the front", thats where the leak is. Just curious. | ||
| Sandblast |
Uh- can anyone tell me what the exhaust gasket looks like? Because my Vance & Hines I put on today did not come with one, and I did not see anything that looked like a gasket when I took the stocker off- I installed it with a friend who is a professional mechanic, and we wondered about the gasket but started it and there was no noticeable leak- someone help please... | ||
| Rockbiter1 |
It was prolly still in the head when you removed the old pipe. Mine looked like wire mesh filled with rubber/black stuff (I have no idea what the material is) You could pull it out of the head easily, but then I think you'd have to replace it. If it doesn't leak, then you should be just fine. IMHO, YMMV, YGWYPF | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
As far as the WB, the muffler to headpipe seals perfectly,It actually leaks at the front seam of the muffler(can).The first can I got did the same thing (though not as bad) & I took it back to WB and they pulled it apart and sealed it with high temp silicone(which is what they do with a re-pack). Exhaust gasket looks like its part of the head, unless you have a new one(gasket).Doesnt leak-dont fix it! | ||
| Sarodude |
Pro Series Exhaust We decided to retire the Vance & Hines on our Blast. I really liked the Pro Series pipe. I'd installed one on a friend's bike and thought it would be a good pipe for a street bike. Loli really digs the tone of the pipe and appreciates it lower maintenance finish. So we put it on. I still haven't ridden the bike with the new exhaust but Loli swears up & down that essentially the whole torque curve shifted upward. For those of you who haven't seen this pipe, it's clear that someone put some thought into it. It's stepped TWICE - which should provide a nice, broad torque curve. It has 2 smaller silencers instead of one large one (I assume) to help out with the Blast's ground clearance. It has a dandy tone that, although somewhat loud, has no harsh metallic overtones. The mounting also seems damned near bulletproof. The downers? The pipe is a bit porky - no doubt in an effort to make the thing robust. I don't think it's as heavy as stock but it seriously outweighs the V&H. Also I suspect that if you're looking for bragging rights at a Blast Dyno shootout the Pro Series exhaust may spread the scavenging pulses a bit thin - but I have nothing to really back up that statement. Aaron - you put one of these things on a built motor yet? -Saro | ||
| Blackhat |
I'm riding the XB9R and have found at least three easy stock muffler modifications to improve performance and sound. By sound, I mean "LOUD". My wife rides a 2003 Blast. I'm wanting to know from some of you that are more schooled on this; Is there a stock can modification that can be done to the Blast to improve the sound? We like volume...... as in decibels. Any help would be appreciated. Blackhat | ||
| Ezblast |
Yea - replace it with a Bub - loose 28 ugly pounds (fondly refered to as the boat anchor - stock exhaust)and enjoy the extra torque and power it will supply! - lol Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I haven't heard of anybody modifying the stock can other than taking it off! | ||
| Shotgun |
I noticed a remark by EZ the other day when he was installing his WhiteBros E Series exhaust that he was leaving off the doohingy velocity stack they supply to go inside the lip of their header. When I put mine on, I installed the thing. But the bike had not been running its best since then. So I removed that little restricter today and what a difference! The engine came back to life like it did with the Force pipe, but with better mid and low RPM response. I'm wondering why White Bros sends that little puppy along with their exhaust system. | ||
| Ezblast |
I figure if you don't change the jetting and just advance the timing 4 deg. and add the torque cone and all 12 discs you'll get their advertised 3.5 hp, however if you jet, leave the timing alone, skip the cone and go to 23 discs you gain a total of 5.5hp with a a minimal 1/3rd of a single Ft.lb. lost on torque remember this is with Nallin's goods -(all in comparison with the Bub - a drag pipe - which will deliver all the torque an engine can offer and took me 4 1/2hp over stock;0))- still too rich on my main though with the Dial A Jet - but I'll get it nailed soon;0) Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! edited by ezblast on October 12, 2003 | ||
| Halfaharley |
Which pipe is loudest? What type of finish do the bub and force pipes have? (Can I grind it off and chrome it?) --Nik | ||
| Ezblast |
The Force and Bub are the two loudest, the White Brothers is also loud when set up as above, but has a different tone entirely - setting it apart from the traditional HD sounds, You'd have to ask the Aussies about the Wileyco, the Force pipe used to come Chrome or Black, and a little brake cleaner or MEK will take the paint off the Bub and then you can polish and prep it for chroming. The White Brothers is a really nice unit and the bronzing pipe is cool - the header looks like an XB header and the tunability really impresses me - lol Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ  | ||
| Steveford |
Does anyone have any experience with the Vance and Hines exhaust for the Blast? I know that they tend to fall apart on the old tube frames and need to know how they hold up on the Blast. I'm NOT going to install any more of the rusting Pro Series Hooker Headers pipes as the quality of the coating is an insult to the end user. Thanks, Steve Ford | ||
| Xgecko |
well the nicest thing I can say that I didn't care for my V&H...jet coating the header is cheap, about $40-50...the wool wears out in about 6-8 months | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
The V&H Blast pipe is one of the longer lived Blast pipes. Mine has about 15k miles on it. It's also (easily)repackable- and it doesn't need to have the rivets drilled to do it ! The rear section actually has 4 allen head screws attaching it. The V&H Blast pipe is rather loud, and has a tendency to blow out the fiberglass packing...which really does't make it much quieter. The Headpipe is nickel plated, so is the front on the can...the can itself is aluminum. I've never seen a V&H Blast Pipe or Can Crack ! But I have seen (mine) the inner baffle tube crack...and completely sever ! When EZ reads this, he'll also say how much power you'll lose (LOL) when using a V&H. You actually gain low and mid range power... and you only lose about 1 or 2 ponies at MAX RPM (with stock cyl/head)when compared to the most free flowing systems (with 1-3/4 in. pipes). BTW- my V&H hasn't rusted and my headpipe didn't Blue (correct jetting), but became Golden. But I think Because of Sound- my NEXT system will have to be quieter... I am leaning toward the Buell Pro Series for a couple of reasons...But I'm NOT in love with THAT system either ! But in a Perfect world, I might have chosen the White Bros Unit. But every one I've seen, usually gets Weld Cracks and the Cans fall apart from Cracks at the front connection. I also don't like HOT exhaust gases being distributed all over the back half of the tranny and BIKE ! | ||
| Knightenforcer |
when I ordered my blast i specifically asked for the pro- series exhaust, and have no regrets....my friends say it sounds like a "big" high performance bike, esp. when they hear me coming from a distance...and it's tough too...i've hit several speed bumps everytime coming to and from work( although i tried to avoid it..the blast's low ground clearance isn't helping either)....it seems to hold up pretty well...but mostly I like it for the way it sounds....better than my flowmaster in my jeep! lol. | ||
| Halfaharley |
Would a larger head pipe be more ideal for a 600 Blast? I'm thinking about having a 2" header built and using a supertrap universal can. Thanks! By the way, I just ordered the 600 kit from Nallin Racing and a 4-valve head from Maximum Torque Engines. --Nik | ||
| Ezblast |
Tony! - Welcome! The V&H is pretty and gives an improvement in midrange but will restrict any serious performance mods past the exhaust system itself - header dimension is too small! Halfaharley - Work it the same way a 1200 twin would - since your half a twin - 1 3/4 id should suffice. There is math and discusions showing this in the exhaust section here and elsewhere - please take the time to read the archives - where it also discusses lengths, etc. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ edited by ezblast on December 31, 2003 | ||
| Bs1200s |
Hi all. I've enjoyed reading and searching and browsing all of the different threads and topics for a while and now my little brain is full so I need to come out of lurk mode to ask a question. I'm ready to commence upgrading my SO's stock 2000 Blast and have a fair grasp on the intake/jetting/exhaust mods but want to port and up the cams some too. My goal is to get more low and mid range power without freaking my SO out - well my actual goal is to do the mods and have fun and say I did it and learn how and all that (beginner mechanic). Was originally interested in just a Stage 1 port but the Stage 2 heads on Nallin's site caught my eye and my imagination. Can you really just bolt this head and some cams on or is it recommended to upgrade the push rods and rocker arms? Do you need to do the valve/piston and rocker arm/rocker cover clearance checks when you change to this head with the big valves or can I bolt it on and assume standard clearances? Do I need to figure out how to measure squish and choose the right gasket thickness? Any Stage 2 sage advice is greatly appreciated. Just curious what y'all thought before I contact Nallin. Thanks for all the help. Burt | ||
| Xgecko |
Rods and stuff really depends on which Cams you plan on using...in all honesty you would do well to call Nallin and talk to them about your goals and limitations...he can and will provide as good if not better information than almost anyone here (except maybe Aaron and that's just like talking to Nallin except the phone call is faster) | ||
| Matt_dub |
Hello all. I'm new to the site, and to Buell, but I'm happy to have a new (to me) 2000 Blast, bone stock, 7500 miles. I'm sure this has been asked and answered a hundred times, but what mods do you guys think give the best bang for the buck? It's probably a contradiction in terms, but I'd really like a more free-flowing exhaust that is NOT a whole lot louder than stock. At the same time, I don't want to buy something that will foreclose further performance enhancements.... Very glad I found you guys; thanks for being here. Matt. Edit: Oh yeah: any sources out there for OEM Buell parts at a discount? TIA. edited by matt_dub on January 05, 2004 | ||
| Ezblast |
I'd see if you can get a WhiteBrothers and leave it at the 12 discs - its fairly quiet even at the 12 and you can try removing half and then all to quiet it more. A second option - though not yet fully explored is the Buell Pro series exhaust - fairly quiet and the last step is to 1 3/4. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
As EZ said the WB is quiet, if you're sitting next to an HD with a performance exhaust, you wont even know yours is running! Its also tunable and the can (muffler) is replaceable with other cans. However, the bad point is the WB is not known for its durability. A word of caution-since the stock exhaust is so quiet, and it exits directly underneath your ears, when you go to a non-stock exhaust it sounds much louder! From riding behind a Pro Series exhaust,the Pro Series doesnt seem that loud either. GearheadErikO |
