| Author | Message | ||
     Trafford |
I bought Thermo Shield on Fleabay- Adhesive backed Heat Barrier Size =12" x 24" (also available in 12" x 12" Protect your fragile underbonnet parts from the extreme heat around the turbo / manifold or downpipe......The Adhesive Backed Heat Barrier protects parts and components from radiant heat. It can be used in applications to protect painted surfaces, plastic parts or any component from the damaging effects of radiant heat. Aluminized Heat Barrier is made up of woven silica with a flexible aluminized finish. The highly reflective surface of the material is capable of withstanding radiant temperatures in excess of 2000°F. The adhesive backed composite construction material can easily be applied to any surface or wrapped around a hose or wire to make a clean professional appearance. Make sure the bits of frame are de-greased or the stuff will unpeel. I found that after removing the airfilter lower and pulling a few cables to one side, all the inner frame parts including the rear spar behind the engine could be accessed. Be warned I did not attempt to use whole sheets, I cut sections and overlapped them as nobody is looking in there. Its tight but it was a quick job. I cut sections and slid them down between frame and engine and then used a wooden spatula to press the insulation against the frame.(A spatula is like a flat long wooden thing for flipping eggs etc.) Anything flat thin and long will do the job. | ||
| 1_mike |
I also used aluminum HVAC tape to seal the edges of the insulation from the intrusion of water, oil and other worldly junk that may try to separate the bare/open edges of the new insulation. Mike | ||
| Dannybuell |
Did you notice any difference in frame temperature? | ||
| Crazyhawk99 |
How about rider comfort? Any significant improvement? | ||
| Trafford |
I have gone through all this in previous threads. I am in Europe, with straight petrol (no ethanol). When I got the bike in Feb this year the fuel was boiling when at low levels. It has not done this since I insulated the frame. The highest temp I've seen is 83 degrees celsius. This is with a cali-can and Erik Buell Racing ECM. | ||
| Trafford |
Dannybuell- Improvement? yes, I never feel that the frame is uncomfortably hot. | ||
| Bueller4ever |
Would dynamat extreme work in a pinch? I have extra sheets of it lying around. | ||
| Blk09r |
I think Dynamat has a urethane backing. I don't think it will insulate or handle the heat as well as the stuff American Sport Bike sells. | ||
| Blk09r |
I just finished insulating mine tonight. I used the insulation available from American Sport Bike and it seems like nice stuff. I did it without rotating the engine and used a yard stick to apply pressure to the areas I couldn'd reach with my hands. Here are a couple of shots   | ||
| Blk09r |
Here's a shot of the insulation near the header.  | ||
| Crazyhawk99 |
How much insulation is required to do a complete job? The stuff American Sport Bike sells comes in 24X36 inch sheets as I recall. Is one enough to do the job? | ||
| Blk09r |
I used a little more than half of the sheet. | ||
| Nattyx1 |
Yes, and you can use the leftover to line your pants.  | ||
| Drawkward |
Natty: Ain't that the truth! | ||
| 1_mike |
To answer the questions above...it was 99 in Los Angeles yesterday...which means it was a few degrees hotter where I am (east). No fuel boiling, only a little heat/leg discomfort at one or two signals out of about 12 after about 33 miles on the freeway. The water temp. "never" reached 200 degrees. Was at 199 for about 2 min. after one signal. No erratic running from hot fuel. Hot fuel is less dense, will cause lean running. Also no fuel boil after stopping at home. Total drive time, about 70 minutes, total drive miles, about 43.5. All in rushour traffic. My headers are wrapped also. Was it worth all the work...YES. Mike | ||
| Blk09r |
I just got back from a 100 mile ride in 80 degree weather. I went up to Hampton Beach NH where I knew I would get stuck in traffic but at least there would be some scenery. I was stuck in traffic for about a half hour and the CT got up to 211 deg. Normally my legs would be cooking in this situation but not today. I'm not saying the heat radiating from the frame was totally gone but it was much less. Once I was moving above 30mph or so I couldn't feel any heat through my jeans. I'd say it was worth the effort to install the insulation as well. This winter I'll get the headers ceramic coated. Now that I'm not so distracted by the heat, I noticed my but was sore. I guess a seat will be the next improvement. | ||
| Littlebutquick |
its worth doing under you air box as well to keep the heat out |
