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     2008xb12scg |
i have an 08 xb12scg. I'm thinking of selling and getting an 08 1125r. Just wondering what your guys thoughts are? I'm sure others have. Are there going to be trade ofs? I haven't had any real trouble with the xb, just thinking a change? how is the r on the back and wrists? | ||
| Froggy |
You need to ride one and see. Totally different animal that your XB, in both good ways and bad. Me? I love the 1125's so much I got two of them and don't ride the XB as much anymore.
Lower fuel economy, some parts are a little harder to get due to the shorter production run vs XB. The pros significantly outweigh these cons though!
Better than the Firebolt. I find both of my 1125's (R and CR with clubmans) to be all day comfortable (done 600 mile days) with just a different seat. I can't speak for you, as everyone's body is different. If you are hurting your wrists, you aren't riding it correctly. | ||
| Zane_t |
If you can afford it and have the garage space, have both bikes. If not, then the trade offs are being the 1125R will handle better, be easier on your back, have far superior acceleration, top speed, etc., better weather protection as a result of the wide fairing. The drawbacks are if you're too relaxed it can be hard on your wrists. If you don't keep your knees squeezing the frame to use your torso to keep the weight off your wrists it can agravate your carpel tunnel syndrome, like mine. Not quite the low end torque like the XB bikes have. They just don't loaf around corners in second gear. I have to put my 1125R in first to round corners. My Ulysses easily rounds corners in second. Gas mileage not as good either. 38 mpg for the 1125R VS 50 mpg from the Ulysses. So, if you don't mind a compromised riding position and less gas mileage, I would say go for it. | ||
| 1_mike |
I've currently got both....an XB12S and an 1125CR. Thoughts - Handling is similar, though for some reason the XB is a little easier to take the local corners at a 50 degree angle while still going within the speed limits.. The 1125 is MUCH faster, even though I've played with the XB's ECM (also have much time on getting the 1125's ECM right) and helped it out. The XB's first ten feet are a little quicker than the 1125's just using somewhat normal throttle. But when it comes to lifting the front wheel throttle, they are about the same. After the first ten feet, the 1125 is around the next corner. The XB's mileage is MUCH better thAn the 1125's. I kind of think of my XB as a mini-bike, but still fun to drive. Trade-offs - Speed, mileage, insurance rates. The back and wrists - No different, I put a CR bar and the straight foot pegs on my XBS. I don't like the "situp" position. And before you ask, I'm almost 60 and drive one of my three bikes (the two Buells noted and an old 03, Yamaha, R1) to work and back, 88 miles a day, every day. Overall...I like them both for different reasons. If I HAD to get rid of one, it would be the XB to go. Mike | ||
| Darkitekt |
I made the exact move you are contemplating. I went from an '08 xb12scg (valencia orange) to an '08 1125R. The big changes were: A) The seat height. The R is much taller than the scg and if you have a shorter inseam you will definitely notice it. B) Riding position. The R is more sport bike like and will require you to use your core muscles more. It's not a bad thing but you will use different muscles and will need to get used to it. It took my 44 year old out of shape body a couple weeks to be fully comfortable. C) Gas efficiency. Unless you're Froggy or some other hyper-miler, don't expect the R to get good mileage like your xb does. There are other things including the sound, the effect of the fairing on fatigue from wind (the R is nice), etc. Personally, I am completely hooked on my R. I ride it more often than I did the xb. The riding position gives me more confidence in the twisty sections. I find myself making more upgrades to the R than I did on the xb... it's just fun. The comment earlier in the thread about keeping both bikes is completely valid. I wish I had kept the xb but I'm not sure I would be on it as much as I am on the R. -Tod | ||
| Ljm |
I made the same switch and passing the xb off to my oldest son when he gets back across the pond. Loved the xb, more upright riding position so less weight on my hands but more wind above, well, 70 anyway. 1125 taller, rolls into corners easier and stays there, worse fuel economy, less low end torque but more top end (way more), ride not extreme in terms of position as some bikes I've ridden so not a hard transition. I like them both. They are different and each have their own appeal. I haven't had any of the problems people have mentioned on this forum with the 1125and now at 6200 miles. I got it last fall. But then I never had any trouble with the xb either. I don't plan to trade back down, but if for some reason I did I know I would be as happy with the xb as I was originally. I agree. Keep them both if you can.LJM | ||
| Mtch |
i have an 07 Scg and a 2010CR. very different bikes. i would only part with the xb for a tuber if one comes up at a good price. im 5'6" with 29" inseam and cut an inch out of the CR's seat to feel more comfy at stops, while i can almost flat foot the Scg. the xb is much easier to ride on some of the roads round my way as they are quite tight and twisty, the low end torque helps out of corners. the CR is much faster on higher speed bends and is great fun, although on hard acceleration it can feel very light on the front.im still getting used to the CR and playing with suspension settings, while the xb is sorted. i get around 55 mpg on the xb, and 45 on the CR (UK gallons)so the larger CR fuel tank makes up for that. i will keep both, it would be difficult to chose which one to sell even if i had to | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
. If you are hurting your wrists, you aren't riding it correctly. lmao! yeah it's true I need to learn to smooth out more. To much gas and brake.. | ||
| Jng1226 |
I am lucky to have both a modded XB9SX and an 1125R. I would ditto the comments from 1_mike above, he is spot on from my POV. As Mike points out, I do find that the XB9SX turns quicker than the 1125 and carries more lean angle for less speed, and I believe that is due to the 2.1-inch longer wheelbase the 1125R. Resultingly, the 1125R feels a bit more planted mid-corner, IMHO. As was pointed out earlier the 1125R handles similarly to the XB as a result of similar frame and steering geometry (just a bit more stable as I mentioned), but with the water-cooled Helicon motor it is truly in superbike-class power. That probably makes the biggest difference in "feeling". It makes sense too, that the 1125R being the evolution of the same Buell engineering concepts as the XB-series but unrestrained by an ancient air-cooled powerplant, would "feel" basically like an XB on anabolic steroids. Want a professional opinion? Read the track review of the 2009 1125R vs. 2009 ZX-6R vs. 2009 Aprilia RSV1000R here: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/9/3317/Motorcycle-Ar ticle/2009-Daytona-SportBike-Comparison.aspx Jeff | ||
| Rt_performance |
i have a xb9sx with an r tail and 1125r. The power of the 1125r makes my 9 feel like a wimp. the huge front fairing took forever to get use to looking at on the r. But after riding my xb on the highway i want another fairing bike for my back up when the 1125 is down. looking at another 1125 or (you guys may shoot me) a triumph Daytona | ||
| Jng1226 |
Triumph Daytona's rock! That 955 triple is awesome and one of the best sounds ever when unleashed through an aftermarket pipe. I had a T595 and loved it. Now that new-generation Daytona 675, pure sex... Jeff | ||
| Stirz007 |
2008xb - I own both the bikes you ask about. I agree with 1mike, Dark and Mtch. If you can, keep the XB like Zane says. The XB is better around town, and the 1125 just wants to go fast. If I had to choose, I'd keep the 1125 for track time - it really excels there. | ||
| Swamp2 |
I have an 09 XB12Ss and 1125CR. I put the high bar and ulysses footpegs on the CR and find the riding position to be perfect - it's just a touch more aggressive than the Ss and a bit lower (an 09 Ss is pretty tall). The XB is a little easier to live with, but I have to say - with all the extra power - the CR is more fun. Having both is the best solution if you can get away with it. They're both pretty wonderful. But, if you can only have one and you're used to an Scg and like it, you may be better off with a CR rather than an R. | ||
| Xb9er |
I find my 1125R just as comfortable as my XB12S. I have to say after riding my 1125R for a while then going back on the XB, the XB feels like a turd. A fun turd though to be fair. | ||
| Rsh |
The 1125R is what the XB should have been from the start. The 1125 will take some getting used to. Leaving a stop sign or stop light will initially be very different from your XB12SCG or any XB for that matter, because of the different power band and how the clutch engages. Accelerating up through the gears will be a whole different world, when the XB is starting to die off, the 1125 is just getting ready to take off. A number of XB converts try to ride the 1125 like it is an XB, and ride around in the 2000 to 4000 rpm range in to high a gear, the bike isn't totally happy in that rpm range, the software updates have made it much more livable, but if you want to cruise around in that rpm range, use the bike in lower gears like 1st or 2nd, at least for me it seems to keep the bike happy. The change in riding position from a SCG to an R will also take some getting used to, and initially your wrists may get fatigued until you adapt to the riding position. Depending on your size, on the open highway the fairing works fairly well at limiting wind buffeting, which is a huge difference compared to a SCG. A minor 1125 annoyance is the rear brake pedal position, the clutch cover sticks out directly in front of the pedal and you will most likely hit the cover with the front of your boot or shoe until you get used to it. I would read through the 1125 post's on this board to find out potential issue's that have cropped up. Bottom line, like I initially said, the 1125 is what the XB should have been. It is a nice bike that is not without quirks that tend to make it a Buell. | ||
| Brumbear |
The 1125 platform is I hate to say it cause I loved my XB but 3X the machine. The pro's The suspension has a stronger feel (inputs feel even better) the brakes are far better the engine is way way stronger the trans shifts smoother and it has a slipper clutch (huge) The cons it leaks gas a bit, stators suck on 09's, should come with drop pegs, can't get the shyt stains outa yer draws | ||
| Furbaby |
I have 2008 xb12S AND A 2008 1125r and love them both. each one quite different from the other.glad that I have them both,insurance isn`t to bad.If you can afford it, have them both.Best of both worlds. Fur | ||
| Mountainstorm |
I traded my Ulysses for my 1125r and never looked back. Never like the Uly much...seemed like it was all about looks, and missing on the actual performance end both on and off the asphalt. I've got an X-1 that I will never sell, I've ridden the XB9R and the XB12 lightning and they are neat bikes but not neat enough to make me lay down the cash. The 1125r is such a great bike I'd really like another as a spare. | ||
| Dirty_john |
I was lucky enough to have both my 06 XBR and my 09 1125R at the same time, the ownership of both overlapped for a year before her indoors made me sell the XBR to get a cruiser. Whilst I love both bikes I actually believe that the XBR handled a little bit better, but both bikes are so close to ideal they are streets ahead of the pack, that said the extra power of the 1125R was really what was missing from the XBR - enough your bikes | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
thanks for all of the advice guys. Lots to think about here. Time to take a ride.. |
