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Pegasusrider
| Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 07:37 pm: |
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So I go over to a friend's house to meet up for a ride this morning, he wasn't ready so I was in the house waiting. I was there about 5 minutes, we were just about to walk out, and his mother's boyfriend comes in, "hey, I just hit your friends bike, sorry". I couldn't even believe it until I walked outside, and sure enough, poor Penelope was laying on her side. I rushed over to help her, but the damage was done. He hadn't looked and backed right into her. Needless to say I was angry, but I understood it was an accident, so I walked away for a minute to keep my composure. Then he tries to tell me he'll only pay half the repairs. To make a long story short I got the money, but what a dirtbag! Hit a parked vehicle and tried to weasel out of paying for it! At least the guys at my local dealer, TSI, were helpful, and had all the parts except for the handlebar. So this makes 3 accidents in as many years(2 with the car), but all of them my vehicle was parked and I wasn't even near it. WTF kind of luck is that? |
No_rice
| Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 07:48 pm: |
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so if i say maybe there is a chance you are also making bad choices about where you park, would that seem rude? everyone should look before they move, but... sucks about the bike. glad they were atleast able to get you most everything right away! |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 07:56 pm: |
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Neurotic - making the same mistake over and over again expecting a different outcome each time. Prudence - The ability to govern one self with use of reason. What can I do differently next time? Stay away from that guy, he sounds like trouble. Park the bike in the most secure area possible, no where else. |
Darkitekt
| Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 08:40 pm: |
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Looks like you'll just have to stop parking it. Keep it running and never stop! |
Mountainstorm
| Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 10:12 pm: |
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You need a proximity sensing 136dba alarm. |
Captain_america
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 02:38 am: |
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Same shit happened to me |
Jules
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 09:33 am: |
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Be proud of yourself for having the sense to walk away for a minute... I am not convinced I could do that, especially if they only offered to pay half.. Well done mate! |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 09:42 am: |
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If you park your bike behind my car, in my driveway and I back over it, sucks to be you. I have a long driveway and don't need to look back when pulling out of my carport, why should I? Depending on the vehicle and how close you parked to it, he may not have been able to see it anyway. And what's with kids living at home owning motorcycles? My parents would never let me live at home and own a motorcycle, never! My son will never own a motorcycle while I'm responsible for him. |
Spank
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 10:50 am: |
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WOW...sounds just like my dad! |
Jules
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 10:50 am: |
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If you park your bike behind my car, in my driveway and I back over it, sucks to be you. I have a long driveway and don't need to look back when pulling out of my carport, why should I? Seriously? Well I guess that won't be a problem as presumably you don't have any friends that would do that.... And when you do the "thump/thump" and find the dead kid that was playing on your drive you can feel comfortable in the certainty that it was their fault. |
Pegasusrider
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 10:52 am: |
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I didn't want to post some overly detailed long boring story, but I didn't expect people to act like this was my fault, so here we are: The driveway is about 25 feet long, about the same distance from the bike to the porch on which he was standing when I pulled in 5 minutes earlier. He watched me park the bike there. And it was only a couple feet from the sidewalk and street, so if a kid was walking down that sidewalk, they would have seen the same fate as my bike. The only other option was the street, which generally doesn't seem safer to me. The other two incidents, one was at work, where there are 30 employee parking spaces and 28 cars, so not too many options there. The other one, my car admittedly was parked in a legal but less than desirable spot(in the street), but I didn't have the heart to tell my 4 year old niece I wouldn't go to her birthday party unless she would guarantee reserved parking. I try to pick the best places to park, but often the choices are limited. I don't think parking in a legal space and expecting people not to hit my vehicle makes me neurotic. Posting on internet message boards and expecting people to be empathetic makes me neurotic. Thanks to those that are. |
Jules
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 10:52 am: |
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WOW...sounds just like my dad! Thankfully sounds nothing like mine.. he bought me my first bike, when I lived at home - just like I bought my kids their first bikes and they still live at home too... |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 11:20 am: |
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Pegasusrider - I apologize. I can appreciate the trust you have in others. When it comes to bikes I trust no one. I guess that makes me the neurotic one. |
Pistole_pete
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 11:50 am: |
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Sucks about the bike, man. I have to hand it to you, staying calm in a situation like that can't be easy. You easily could have escalated it and demanded insurance info since he wasn't willing to pay for all of it but you chose to keep the friendship intact and more importantly didn't crap over your friend's living situation. Just curious, what did your friend have to say about what the dude did? |
Usanigel
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 09:04 pm: |
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Not you fault at all Pegasusrider! Dip stick in the car should have checked around his car BEFORE moving it! Checking again from inside before moving! All kinds of things change in an instant on the road and around cars and you! Well done for keeping it together and taking no sh!t from him. |
Usanigel
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 09:08 pm: |
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Bueller4ever. Do you really own a motorcycle? Are you really as self centered as you sound? I hope not. |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 05:06 am: |
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Yes I do and yes I am. I have no kids and don't really care for them. |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 05:08 am: |
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And buying your kid a sport bike is liking handing them a loaded gun. Bad parenting imo. |
Black
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 01:49 pm: |
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Pegasusrider, I feel for you. Thanksgiving two years past, I went into my parking lot to find "The Shiny Beast" (2008 Buell 1125R) lying on the kick stand side with the kick stand still down. Some "person" ran into it while it was parked. Fortunately, the rear wheel, because of the kick stand, ended up on a curb. So no damage to the frame at all. It took a couple of weeks to get the parts, and she was new again. Snapped off the left turn signal, needed a new left pod cover (no damage to the cooling system!), front and rear fairings and a new kick stand. I immediately had both rear turn signals fail. Saw that while riding it to load on my truck at the local Honda dealership. My dealership was great...Winchester Buell. Last week a colleague had his Honda hit in a parking lot. Turned out that his bike was hit by another bike, that was hit by a car. The guy who hit him left his card on the first bike. He was just lucky enough to get there about the same time the other biker did or he wouldn't have known. Neither of the bikes could be ridden. His bike is total loss. It is a couple of years old. I don't think he will get what a new bike will cost. Makes me wonder how fast the car was going in the parking lot. I would like to give the guy who hit him credit for doing the right thing but the lot is under surveillance.....and he didn't report anything to the guards, which he could have done. Bottom line, in my opinion, is that most people will do whatever they can get away with, as I think the person who hit you demonstrated. Sorry again. Hang in there. |
Froggy
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 02:27 pm: |
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quote:If you park your bike behind my car, in my driveway and I back over it, sucks to be you. I have a long driveway and don't need to look back when pulling out of my carport, why should I? Depending on the vehicle and how close you parked to it, he may not have been able to see it anyway.
So lets say your buddy comes over on his bike, parks behind your car, and for some reason you need to run to the store in your car, (beer run?), you hop in the car and take off crushing his scoot. You come back from the store, possibly run it over again to get back in your spot, and then you would tell your buddy "Sorry man, your bike was in the way so I just ran over it, sucks to be you". Did I understand that right?
quote:And what's with kids living at home owning motorcycles?
What is wrong with that? I live at home with my parents and have 4 Buell's in the garage. Just because your parents wouldn't do something doesn't mean its right or wrong.
quote:My son will never own a motorcycle while I'm responsible for him.
Thats perfectly fine and between you and your kids (if you ever have any). My dad has been riding since before I was born, and growing up we would ride dirt bikes off road. Great memories.
quote: I have no kids and don't really care for them.
I feel the same. I do not have kids, I don't plan on having any for the foreseeable future, and sometimes when I am out I would love the chance to strangle those annoying kids that don't stop crying for whatever reason! (Especially babies in a movie theater, but I blame the parents in those situations)
quote:And buying your kid a sport bike is liking handing them a loaded gun. Bad parenting imo.
Well, I have been handed loaded guns many times when I was a kid, I never shot myself or anyone else. Bruised the hell out of my shoulder the first time I fired a shotgun! (I don't currently own any guns/permits, perhaps I will soon) (Message edited by froggy on July 05, 2010) |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 06:52 pm: |
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So long as your parents aren't legally responsible for you and you are not on their insurance policy, then there's nothing wrong with that. If you are in college and they support you, then they can be held financially responsible if you do something immature. To give your child, whom you are still legally responsible for, a high performance motorcycle, is down right careless, maybe even negligent. You can be 18, 19, 20, etc, live at home and your parents can still be held financially responsible for your stupidity. I know kids that have zero insurance on their motorcycle, not required here, and their parents don't think it's a big deal. That's a good way to lose your entire life savings, because the lawyers will go after the parents for restitution. If I ever do have kids, I will not have them zip zooming around on crotch rockets while they live under my roof. Kids are the worst! I really hate the ones that scream and screan and scream, but the parents do nothing! |
Bueller4ever
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 06:58 pm: |
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I don't drink Froggy, nice try though. Maybe it's about time to find your own place? |
R100rs
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 07:16 pm: |
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bueller4ever,your first postmy son will not have a motorcycle while i'm responsible for him,second post,i have no kids,which is it? (Message edited by R100rs on July 05, 2010) |
Pegasusrider
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 07:24 pm: |
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Danny- no problem Pete- I wasn't going to get in this discussion with Bueller, since there in obviously no chance we are going to see eye to eye on this, and I have no use for an internet pissing match, but the son actually owns the house. The mother's boyfriend was already known to be a POS leech bastard, and this just enforced it. Its killing my friend that he lives there, but its out of respect for his mother, who is the nicest person you'll ever meet, they're a tight family. My friend was just as mad as I was, and is not as even-tempered. I practically had to hold him back. BTW, he rides a HD Road King. And I wouldn't try to tell anyone how to raise their own kids. |
Captain_america
| Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 07:51 pm: |
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For the moment, I Still live with my parents ,22, but pay for all my own thing. Rent, insurance on all vehicles, car/motorcycle payment, phone, whatever I pay for it. They are still available for help though when things get tight. Where I'm moving in about a week is my buddies new house which he just bought out of the Marines, and His dad, who just got cheated on, is paying the son rent lol. Basically, if your gonna raise a child, DO IT RIGHT!, a parent who has raised a child properly shouldn't have to worry about kids that do stupid things. Now accidents on the other hand are a different story... Shit happens, and stupid hurts! |
Lastonetherebuys
| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 04:35 am: |
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And what's with kids living at home owning motorcycles? my parents were the ones who got me interested in motorcycling in the first place. The first bike I ever had was an old Honda xr 100 that my dad got as payment for fixing my neighbors lawn tractor. At that point my dad was done his dirt bike days but me and him would take the bike and the quad out and spend all day on them. My first street bike was a basket case that my dad had found in his dealings once we got it home and started putting it back together we found that the transmission was toast in it so we sold it to a bike wrecker and were on the look for a street bike for me again. He found an 84 Honda V30 Magna that needed an engine swap, the owner had the spare engine but didn't have time to do the swap so he bought it on the understanding that I would be out there helping with the swap and that I would be buying the bike off him slowly with money from my after school job I had paid him back about half of what we had agreed upon for a fair price and one day out in the shop out of no where said that we were square on the bike. When it came time for me to upgrade a few years later I was shopping around Yamaha's Star line originally I was looking at a V-Star custom 1100 but I sat on a Roadstar Warrior and fell in love with it. Being only 18 at the time and living at home I didn't have nearly a high enough credit score to get the loan on the bike and my parents were more than happy to co-sign for me. I am more than appreciative of what my dad did for me and plan on doing as close to the same that we can afford once me and the fiance decide to have children. The time that I got to spend with my dad fixing and riding bikes is worth more than any bike could ever be. |
Hildstrom
| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 03:13 pm: |
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"Then he tries to tell me he'll only pay half the repairs." He's liable. His liability insurance and deductible should cover it if he doesn't want to pay the full amount out of his pocket. Another approach would be to take him to small claims court, which you can certainly file yourself at the courthouse without a lawyer. The threat alone might be enough to motivate some people to do the right thing. Call me crazy, but I always check behind my vehicles before I even get into/onto them. It is ridiculous to suggest that it is acceptable to operate a motor vehicle without being completely aware of your surroundings. |
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