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Titusand
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About to start doing some maintenance. Is the Blast metric, English, or a mix of both?
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Britchri10
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both.
Chris C
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Titusand
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh poop. That really stinks. Well, what about changing the motor and tranny oil? Metric or English tools or both?
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Milt
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think oil and trans are English - as is most of the motor.

Other stuff is anyone's guess.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW: Tools are cheaper to buy in sets. Metric sets have more sizes (and you'll need the 'odd' sizes-10mm,12mm). I'd get a Metric set first as it will include all the 'English' sizes.
5/16, 7/16, 1/2, 9/16, 5/8, 11/16 , 3/4, are all very close to their metric counterparts (8, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17 & 19mm) and are often interchangeable or some will fit better (and visa- versa).
Snap-On will you cost $100+ for a set of 5 wrenches. Craftsman set can be had for $20, sometimes cheaper, and even cheaper is Harbor Fright. Watch for sales. You do get what you pay for though. Craftsmen used to guaranteed for life, just walk-in and exchange the broken tool, but I'm not sure of their current policy.
Beware the SuperDeals. A super cheap socket set may not last you more than one use (or less) per socket.

See Also:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/309879.html?1249959553
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Titusand
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do all of my own car work, but all of my good quality tools are metric. So there's not much rhyme or reason as to what bolts I'll find in Metric or English? I had a Buick that way. AHHHG! Yes, you can substitute some of those sizes, which works great until you round something off. There is no such thing on this bike as a a bolt being 24mm or 15/16, it's either one or the other. Again, I say "poop."
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ain't America Great!
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like you need to buy some more tools! : )

Tools and books. You can never have too many of either!
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ, i think you mean "Ain't HD great!"
They keep using bolt sizes that other manufactures threw out 10 years ago.

Why the F produce stuff with SAE sizes any more.

From working on American cars, I have a complete Metric set of Craftsman tool and have been slowly buying the SAE sets for working on the Blast. I am not talking about the normal "Mechanics" Crafts men set. I am talking about crows feet, extended range 1/2" socket sets, ect.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See - thanks to them you have an excuse to buy more tools!
EZ
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Crackhead
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am just afraid that my box is going to fall through the shed floor.
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Britchri10
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Build a better shed! In the UK I had a succession of Brit' bikes - ALL imperial (SAE). Unfortunately, I gave my tools away before arriving on these shore's. Now I am in the process of collecting everything in duplicate ( SAE + Metric).
Gotta love the Blast!
Chris C
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you keep the Whitworth at least?
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Britchri10
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never had them. My "partner in crime" had all the specialist tools. My father was a tool maker (Cue jokes about how he "made" me!) so he could be relied upon to come up with just about anything we didn't have. He's 76 now and still going strong. His cellar is a Aladdins cave of tool treasures and he still finds time to spin his spanners (wrenches.) He just finished restoring a Vauxhall of some sort. (Viva I think)
Later,
Chris C
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whitworth tools reminded me of this when I was building basket case Triumph and BSA motorcycles when I was young.




I apologize I don't mean to offend anybody I just thought it was funny.



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Britchri10
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From personal experience I have to say that the Landrover one is certainly true!
My cousin and I paid $40.00 for a late 50's SWB landrover back in the mid 70's.
When it ran, it ran well. The rest of the time we spent rerouting/replacing switches & wires to get it to run without the ever present smell of smouldering insulation.
Chris C
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL! Tool maker! And I thought I was lucky to have a Dad that had any tools, but a tool maker....sweet!

And the legend of Lucas lives on..........: )
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note the ritual at the bottom of "Lucas Prince of Darkness". If anyone thought that the Blast 'Oak Tree Dance' was merely superstition and not to be taken seriously..... (well the police took it seriously anyway)!
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Buellistic
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lucas still makes AIRCRAFT ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT ...

"MAYDAY", "MAYDAY", smoke in the cockpit !!!
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Britchri10
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lucas made a rake of gear for the Nimrod (British maritime surveillance aircraft) That's why they spend a lot of time parked awaiting repair.
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Titusand
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well what about changing the oil? What am I going to need? I am guessing that that will be all standard tools?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a 3/8" socket (I think-its been awhile) for the strap that holds the oil drain and PCV drain lines to the y-frame.
A pair of pliers to pull off the hose clamps that hold the drain plugs on.
A small oil filter wrench.
A small funnel.
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Milt
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The shop manual incorrectly identifies the primary adjustment bolt as the drain bolt in at least one picture. The drain bolt is the one closer to the back end of the bike.

Don't ask me how I know.
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Titusand
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the size of the primary oil bolt head?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5/8", 16mm or 1/4" allen.
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Titusand
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess is that it is 16mm. My 5/8 slipped on it. I used pliers on it but as you can imagine that is a solution I really dislike. 16mm is 4/1000th of an inch smaller than 5/8.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They all fit. I think your 5/8" is very worn or the plug is very worn. .004" is so minute that it wouldnt matter.
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Monzaracer
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use metric tools. so far everything I have touched has been metric.
Oh and I am a mechanic and I can tell you IT has pretty much all metric fasteners.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And I am a mechanic with a full set of metric, standard, and Whitworth and can tell you, its mixed!!!

Every engine cover allen bolt is 3/16" and to remove the gas tank and cover you'll need a 3/8" socket. Just for starters......
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