| Author | Message | ||
     Randy_bowers |
Is there no safty switch for the kickstand, I can put it in gear while the stand is down. | ||
| Ccryder |
Only on the Euro models. Living in CA you don't qualify. Welcome to the board, enjoy your 1125. Later Neil S. | ||
| Froggy |
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| Cravacor |
I don't like that there is no sidestand kill switch. On other bikes I always used my sidestand as the kill switch and never touched the on-off switch. They say this kickstand is designed to pop up if you leave it down, which folk here have attested to. I personally would feel much better if it had the same set up as most bikes: sidestand down=no spark. | ||
| Randy_bowers |
Oh it pops up all right, but I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to snap it off. | ||
| Ccryder |
So who reminds you to put on your pants in the morning????? | ||
| Dirty_john |
Over here in the UK there have been reports of the sidestand switch failing, even so I think its a good idea to have a sidestand cutout. If you put the bike into gear with the engine running and the sidestand down it cuts out the ignition I understand. I have not done this yet but it only takes one forgetful moment and I don't want to test the theory that the stand will flick up it left down. | ||
| Froggy |
Why not? I have intentionally kicked the stand down while on the highway, it will pop right back up. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Mount bike. Sweep kick stand up. So easy a caveman can do it. PS-You can start the bike outside of neutral too! Just pull that thingy call the clutch in as you thumb the starter. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
I cant think of any bike made that will shut off if you put it in gear with kickstand down. If clutch is it then it doesnt matter, any bike will let you put it in gear with kickstand down. No sidestand switch, oh well, dont be scared. | ||
| Scraejtp |
My SV650 will shut off if you put the bike in gear with the kickstand down, regardless of the clutch position. (Message edited by scraejtp on June 08, 2010) | ||
| Cravacor |
My FZ1, my old TDM850, my old SECA II all would shut off if you put the bike in gear with the stand down and the clutch in. | ||
| Andymnelson |
The '03 Buells shut down if the kickstand is down while in gear! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Sidestand switch is yet another thing to leave ya stranded somewhere. I see no need whatsoever for a sidestand swtich. Should be also demand self-cancelling turn signal switches as well? | ||
| Spank |
That would be nice!  | ||
| Dirty_john |
Not a case of being scared, I have been riding for 35 years - if it saves one life then the kickstand switch is a good idea. If it fails then I know how to bypass it anyway to get me home. Now which country do we have to thank for the warning messages on mirrors about image size I wonder and all the other useless "danger of death" warnings in the owner's manual". | ||
| Fresnobuell |
if it saves one life then the kickstand switch is a good idea. I have never liked the "if it saves one life" for attempting to idiot-proof a product--at some point people have to be responsible for basic motorcycle functions like making sure a kickstand is up and canceling turn signals. If you can't handle these basic functions, 4 wheeled transport might be a safer suggestion. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
If it fails then I know how to bypass it anyway to get me home. that is very cool you can get past the switch, however you are in a distinct minority. Did you ever think about the hazards people might face when stranded due to a faulty switch? I would have to say those dangers are at least as hazardous as any situations (imaginary mostly due to the self-retracting design of kickstands these days) a kickstand might pose. I know this was somewhat addressed earlier in the thread, but what would happen if the switch goes out at speed? I am sure there is some logic built in where the motor would not shut down correct? | ||
| Zac4mac |
I am happy my 11 didn't have a switch so I didn't have to defeat it. My 03 Firebolt had one, there's a jumper made from a Budweiser can I found on the side of the road in there now... <edit> when it failed I was in a residential area, bike just died. I could restart but every time I let out the clutch it died. Z (Message edited by zac4mac on June 09, 2010) | ||
| Milt |
I started off with my kickstand down once. The scraping sound was very hard to miss. | ||
| Suomineiti |
Kickstand wiring. Does anyone know why there is 3 -wire on the kickstand connector? Usually the switch is 2-wired closing -model, but when I looked my (US -model) there is three wires, I´m comfused!? I´m going to put EURO Flash to my bike on next Friday. There is a chance to get some problems because in the US model there is no the switch. So if there is anybody who can confirm (Electric Diagnostic Manual) how I have to connect the wires together, I´d love to get this information. Here is picture from the kickstand connector: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3079256/MP/IMG_7768.JPG (Message edited by Suomineiti on June 09, 2010) | ||
| Froggy |
I have seen in the past people posting on here from their phones because their bike left them stranded and are needing help. Turns out it was the kickstand switch, but if you don't know what to look for it can make for an expensive tow for something that shouldn't exist. | ||
| Ljm |
I think the kickstand circuit goes with the training wheel retractors. | ||
| Ccryder |
Juha: The ECM looks at everything on startup. Long gone are the days when you had simple open/ closed switch. The sidestand switch uses 3 wires so the ECM can verify 1) it is working, 2) what state it is in. IMHO, going to the Euro flash will cause you issues that may be pretty difficult to fix. Later Neil S. | ||
| Ratbuell |
If you have a US bike...I don't think you CAN put a Euro flash in it. Digital tech identifies the bike by VIN and only shows available flashes...otherwise an inattentive tech could pick the flash for an '06 Ulysses and put it in an 1125CR  | ||
| Randy_bowers |
Hybrid- you don't get out much go you, most bikes will die if you try to put them in gear with the kickstand down, we have 7 bikes and the only 2 that won't die are the LowRider and the 1125R. | ||
| Dirty_john |
each to his own opinion, but I agree if the switch fails at speed this could cause an accident, sounds like time for another "danger of death" warning | ||
| Suomineiti |
I know that the spark and fuel map is completely different. But I have the information that the only problem WOULD be the kickstand switch. If the switch is missing there could be a problem with EURO flash. I think that I would make some back-up circuit to the connector, if there show up some problems with the missing switch BUT doing that I WILL need the original wiring information. So if someone could check how the wires are connected? Thanks. | ||
| Chameleon |
I'm very glad that the kickstand doesn't have a kill switch and that the turn signals don't auto-cancel. My wife's V-Rod has the self-canceling signals and they piss me off to no end. Always turning off when I want them to stay on and staying on when I expect them to turn off. At least on my Buell, it's on when I tell it to be and off when I tell it to be. | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
My Ninja has a kickstand switch, and I hate it compared to my 1125...I don't see a reason for it to be there. | ||
| Drawkward |
I wish it had a sidestand switch too. Just so I could go in there and unplug it to bypass it. I like electrical work on bikes. |
