| Author | Message | ||
     Trojan |
Looking forward to this weekend it would be nice to see the Doctor back at the front again at his home race, although I suspect that Lorenzo may win this one as well now that he is on a roll. Stoner could of course pose a threat provided he can keep it shiny side up this time, so I predict this result...... 1. Lorenzo 2. Rossi 3. Stoner However my crystal ball isn't what it used to be, so I may have misread the order a little  Prediction for Moto2.....lots of action, lots of crashes and another new winner (Maybe Jules Cluzel at last)  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I actually think that two shorter 'sprint' races would be more exciting for spectators and would stop the field spreading out as much as it does in the longer format currently in use. It would also mean that a crash wouldn't necessarily mean the end of your race weekend. Superbikes have shown that the format works and now that GP engines have to last a lot longer maybe it will be more realistic to do now. It's also interesting to see how the teams change the bike between races, if any. It adds another element for sure. Seems to me if they shorten the races and lose a practice session, then engine wear would be similar over a one-race versus two-race weekend. Having Sat. and Sun. races would certianly draw better than the Sunday-only racing as it currently stands. From an organizers standpoint, there's money being left on the table IMO. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I agree Harlan(Fresnobuell), and I will add that I have always enjoyed endurance racing for "production" based anything as it truly shows a companies initiative to produce the very best there is whether racing or just riding or touring either in a car or bike. But even endurance racing has highly modified and prototypes. I love drag racing but it is SO far away from anything production. I always enjoyed super stock drag racing with their race on Sunday, buy on Monday philosophy and thats what sells for a company to then have the money to go racing. It has proven to work even on a world scale. And lets face it most attendees at any race cheer for the people who race what they drive/ride especially when near production stock. Just my take FWIW. Bob | ||
| Trojan |
And lets face it most attendees at any race cheer for the people who race what they drive/ride especially when near production stock. Just my take FWIW. Bob I'm not sure this analagy works for GP racing though Bob, as these have always been prototypes and very far removed from production bikes that spectators can buy. There will of course be some brand loyalty (it seems more in the US than in Europe though) but mostly the focus is on the rider rather than the manufacturer in GP racing. I would hate to see GP racing 'dumbed down' to production level even though some production racing is actually more exciting and closer than current MotoGP races are. GP racing needs to be the pinacle of motorcycle sport and prototype racing is the crux of that. Anything less than pure prototypes in th etop class and you might as well amalgamate WSB with MotoGP now and get it over with. Moto2 is another story and shows just how close 'spec' class racing can be. It will be interesting to see just how the proposed Moto3 (how imaginative!) will be when it replaces 125GP in 2012. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I would hate to see GP racing 'dumbed down' to production level even though some production racing is actually more exciting and closer than current MotoGP races are. GP racing needs to be the pinacle of motorcycle sport and prototype racing is the crux of that. Anything less than pure prototypes in th etop class and you might as well amalgamate WSB with MotoGP now and get it over w I read somewhat recently that MotoGP is heading the direction of production based bikes for cost savings...in the same breath of allowing 1000cc engines again. Something change? (Message edited by fresnobuell on June 04, 2010) | ||
| Jaimec |
The good thing about motorcycle racing is that the full face helmet protects you from having to look at Rossi's new 'do... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Yet another reason the man is adored by millions...still keeping it real. | ||
| 1buell1125r |
Rossi's hurt. High side during practice | ||
| Jaimec |
Oh crap... He was stretchered off the track??? Not good... Just read... he broke his tibia AND fibia. No way he can race tomorrow. This is Lorenzo's year for sure! (Message edited by jaimec on June 05, 2010) (Message edited by jaimec on June 05, 2010) | ||
| Snowscum |
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/FREE+EXCLUSIV E+VIDEO+Rossi+crash+in+Mugello+FP2 | ||
| Hughlysses |
Roadracing World confirms: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=40723 Too bad... | ||
| Jaimec |
He's out MINIMUM of six weeks. He MAY be good for Brno, but he may decide to hold off until Misano in September. I'm HOPING that he races at Indianapolis, but on the other hand I don't want him to rush his recovery either. It's now Lorenzo's year to lose (or win). No one else has the pace. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Rossi's already had surgery to fix it; sounds like he's in for a rough few days and a long recovery after that: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=40734 | ||
| Gaesati |
Stoner to finish 3rd. Nicky to finish fourth(again)! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
What a huge, horrible off for Rossi. Scary as hell. Looks like I won't be watching MotoGP for about 6 weeks...just kidding but it takes all the luster out of it for me personally. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
agreed. Not the same with Vale not in the mix. | ||
| Jaimec |
Ugh... my least favorite rider for my least favorite factory... The rumor is that Colin may take Vale's seat on the factory team till he returns... but not if he rides the way he did today. WTF?? He looked so good in practice and qualifying!! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Rossi gave a good early-Lorenzo imitation didn't he? | ||
| Jaimec |
Here's an interesting thought. When Rossi eventually DOES rejoin the grid... what does he do? His title hopes are gone for the year. If his team mate is in the thick of it, does he go "Colin Edwards" and help? Or does he continue to try beating him? This will be interesting to say the least. You know damned well Yamaha isn't going to tell the Doctor what to do... it'll be entirely up to him. This should be an interesting indication of his true character, no? | ||
| Blake |
Why would he not race to win ??? | ||
| Gaesati |
Crusty, you must be suffering terribly over the results of the mugello motogp. | ||
| Trojan |
Dull, Dull, Dull.... If this is what Post Rossi era GP racing will be like then the organisers must be cr*pping themselves  A large proportion of the spectators just didn't even bother tunring up on Sunday because Rossi was out. OK this is Italy but I think the same will happen elsewhere too. Pedrosa rode superbly but the rest of the race was just dire to watch (with brief exceptions in the 4th, 5th,6th battle) Thankfully Moto2 and 125GP made up for it again even though Ianone won the Moto2 race by a mile too. I also heard that Colin Edwards would take Vale's ride temporalily, although to me that is a soft option by yamaha and designed so that it doesn't upset anyone in the team. I think they should either give the ride to Spies (who is after all contracted to Yamaha and not Tech 3) or be very brave and get someone like Cal Crutchlow on the bike for a couple of races I don't think that Rossi will rush to come back either, as his title is already effectively lost for this year anyway so rushing to retunr would be pointless and painful. Better to rest out most of this season and return next year fitter and ready to go. The Italian press have already started the 'Rossi to F1' rumours again almost before he landed on Saturday, so who knows if he will even come back to MotoGP at all? | ||
| Crusty |
Crusty, you must be suffering terribly over the results of the mugello motogp. I wouldn't say suffering terribly. After all, this isn't the first race I've watched when an assh*le has beaten a rider I favored. (in this case, the rest of the field) Remember; I watched Mr. Personality (Mat Mladin) win a lot of Superbike races for years. After that, an occasional win by a rat weasel isn't so bad. I particularly enjoyed the tactics where Dovizioso started dicing with Lorenzo and slowed him up just enough to let Dani escape. Team Orders Rule, baby! | ||
| Trojan |
I particularly enjoyed the tactics where Dovizioso started dicing with Lorenzo and slowed him up just enough to let Dani escape. Team Orders Rule, baby! There are certainly no team orders at Repsol Honda, as witnessed at the last GP when Dovi took Pedrosa on the final lap. Pedrosa needed no help in winning at Mugello by a country mile thats for sure. Dovi and Lorenzo looked lke they could battle all the way but in reality Dovi was struggling to even stay with Lorenzo for the whole lap but could make up some ground on the home straight. | ||
| Gaesati |
My great disappointment was nicky's front end lose. I hope he doesn't lose confidence as a result. | ||
| Trojan |
My great disappointment was nicky's front end lose. I hope he doesn't lose confidence as a result. At the moment I think there is a general lack of confidence at Ducati this year. Nicky has outscored Stoner so far but to be honest neither have looked particularly comfortable, and their joint crash bill must be huge already! It looked like a sign of desperation when they put the softest tyres on both Ducatis Sunday but then it worked quite well for Stoner in the end (and Melandri was also running 'softies' on his Honda too). Ducati obviously have serious handling problems with the 2010 setup and even returning to last years forks etc didn't seem to help to much at Mugello. | ||
| Jaimec |
Stoner kept it up on both wheels this time, didn't he? Nicky stuck with this year's forks and he paid for it this time. | ||
| Jaimec |
His title hopes are done. All he can do is help in the Team and Manufacturer's title. | ||
| Trojan |
His title hopes are done. All he can do is help in the Team and Manufacturer's title. I think Rossi would rather just stay away than come back to ride shotgun for Lorenzo. However he is under contract to Yamaha so it will be interesting to see if they put him under any pressure, especially as they are hoping to keep him happy and on board for next year Maybe Rossi will sign for Ducati/Ferrari (delete as appropriate) while he is 'off sick' and surprise everyone. Stoner kept it up on both wheels this time, didn't he? Yes but he was nowhere near competitive, having spent the entire race trying to get past two poor handling customer Hondas and unable to gap Spies any further. He said afterwards that he knew he couldn't get away from them so left it until the last lap to try and pass them. Hardly confidence inspiring for Ducati. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
I thought the race was interesting, because it cleared many things up : 1. Vale is a great loss for this year. I do not think that he will return to motoGP. It took bad injuries for the great riders to realise that it is time to stop......Doohan. 2. Pedrosa showed that on a flowing track he is very competitive. There is nothing wrong with the Honda factory bikes. 3. Lorenzo will start to go backwards without Rossi's setup wisdom. 4. Ducati is in deep trouble. They have insisted on a design phylosophy that is outclassed and outdated. Stoner showed them that he is racing a 2nd rate bike. 5. I enjoyed watching Stoner finishing a race and making last lap overtaking moves. He was playing cat and mouse , while showing to Ducati that this is the best their bike can do. Performances like this will help him improve his confidence and get a Jap factory bike for next year. I think Stoner had enough of outriding a crap bike that forced him to get overtrained last year and made him into a "crasher" this year when he tried to match the pace of the Jap bikes Get well soon Vale !!!! And stay healthy !!! You are a big personality and we need you on your feet , like Bayliss. No armchairs , please , please , please, no more Rainies, no more badly beaten up riders. |
