| Author | Message | ||
     _gdkp_ |
Hy guys, sorry my english is not the best so i try to explain what i´m thinking about. Is it good to use the Erik Buell Racing ECM with stock exhaust and air filter, or are there any problems ? So i´m really happy with my bike, but the stuttering (til 3000rpms) are very annoying and rough.. So thanks for your help! Bye Kevin | ||
| Ironweed |
Kevin: Your English is fine. I waited more than a few months to buy the race ecm from Mr. Buell and his race shop. It arrived two days ago. I have an 08 1125r with a stock intake and exhaust. With the new ecm the bikes character has been completely changed. The surging and choppiness is completely gone. The motor is a bit quieter and it definitely runs a cooler. The pull through the full RPM range is incredibly smooth. Overall, the strongest impression is that everything is so much sweeter now. Sweeter in the sense that the motor pulls as hard as it ever has and yet its much more relaxed. Its like I hear the motor saying "Now you've given me what I've wanted all along." Simply put-best $250 I've spent on any motorcycle product. | ||
| Xodot |
Ironweed, Your description has done it for me. I am going to get one while at Homecoming. Thanks! | ||
| Rex |
Sounds good. I hope Erik has enough of them in stock, and he takes credit cards...REX I wonder how the motor with the new ECM would do going thru emissions testing in Arizona? I don't have to for another 4 years or so, but just wonder...REX | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Rex, just put the stock in for the test and avoid any possible issues. problem solved before it happens. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
Rex, Mines registered in yavapai county in AZ...NO emissions testing  ...which is why my truck has no cats anymore..gained 3mpg and knocked 2sec. off my 0-60 (yes i know unbelievable but true lol) Jake P.S.- we need to meet up and go for a ride! | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I'm on the fence with the Erik Buell Racing race ECM. I have the latest flash on my '09R, and it runs perfectly. Of course I can't compare it to something (the Erik Buell Racing version) that I've not yet tried, but it's hard to imagine a noticeable improvement. Would I clearly know it was there if I didn't have the knowledge that I had installed it. I'd probably end up specifying a 'factory like' set-up since I like the factory engine braking, the slight blip on clutch release, etc. Mike | ||
| Mountainstorm |
My 08 has the latest flash and the Race ECM is like night and day. More throttle finesse and better drivability at lower RPMs is the first thing I noticed. | ||
| Froggy |
Pros of the Erik Buell Racing ECM -
Cons:
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| Fresnobuell |
No longer flashes COLD on the display Ah yes! Some of the simple but satisfying things about the new ECM. Who ever at BMC "revised" the cluster information for 2009 should have been fired! Sooo nice to see the real time temps as she warms up again. The guys at Erik Buell Racing are on top of it! | ||
| Xodot |
Hey Froggy, Pleas confirm - Are these improvement you list noticeable with stock air intake and stock exhaust? | ||
| Froggy |
So far I only have seat time on my KEDA RT-1 equipped 1125CR, but I do have an ECM sitting on the shelf for my all stock R. Details to follow, but I imagine I will be happy  | ||
| Spank |
Now that it doesn't flash "cold". Does it still switch over to average mpg after it does warm up? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Now that it doesn't flash "cold". Does it still switch over to average mpg after it does warm up? I don't know. I honestly haven't paid attention. I just love the fact I have my warmup temp. back! I hated it when I got the 09 cluster and got the COLD flashing. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Okay, you talked me into it ... Adding "Order new ECM" to my 'to do' list for May. Thanks Froggy! Mike | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
does anyone know if there is a way to get an ebr ecm that retains the engine braking, i really want to keep the engine braking. | ||
| Trafford |
yes you can have engine braking....I did it using ecmread and tuner pro | ||
| Jrfitzny |
Somebody mentioned that the new ECM caused the engine "to run cooler." Can somebody describe to me how it achieves this? Froggy, you mentioned the smoother "around town" riding... Did you have to specify with Erik Buell Racing that they lower your idle or does it come out of the box with a pre-programmed lower idle? | ||
| Froggy |
My R and CR typically are between 160-175°F during most of my riding. Occasionally higher, but rare. This is with both the stock and Race ECM. What I am saying is that it didn't affect mine.
From my understanding you need to specify that you want a low idle. The bike will be great around town regardless of the idle. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
My R and CR typically are between 160-175°F during most of my riding. Occasionally higher, but rare. This is with both the stock and Race ECM. What I am saying is that it didn't affect mine. Run the motor like its supposed to be run and you would likely see higher operating temps. Trust us, the Erik Buell Racing ECM will reducing operating temps. under normal use. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Somebody mentioned that the new ECM caused the engine "to run cooler." Can somebody describe to me how it achieves this? Froggy, you mentioned the smoother "around town" riding... Did you have to specify with Erik Buell Racing that they lower your idle or does it come out of the box with a pre-programmed lower idle? Run cooler cause no more lean fueling. Maybe some timing/spark changes, not knowlegeable enough to say for sure. I understand Erik Buell Racing sends out the FMF/HMF iterations of the ECM with stock idle and IAC(engine braking) settings. YOu may want to confirm while ordering. They can easily tweak either to your liking. (Message edited by fresnobuell on May 24, 2010) | ||
| Palerider |
What are the advantages and disadvantages of the low/high rpm setting and engine braking vs.reduced engine braking. I want to order but I'm not sure which way to go. Thanks for any info. | ||
| Mountainstorm |
Low RPM may effect ability to keep battery charged if stuck in traffic and idling for long periods of time. Higher idle decreased the engine braking effect and make the bike sound a bit like an Apache Helicopter | ||
| Jaimec |
Hmmmm... I actually LIKE engine braking. I've gotten quite used to hustling down back roads in a lower gear revving the engine and hardly ever touching the brakes... | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Same here Jaimec ... I learned to ride this thing with the engine braking. "Learn to ride" applies after 20+ years on H-D big twins prior to my '09R. When I order, I'll specify "factory style engine braking". | ||
| Froggy |
Engine braking wastes gas, it is nice not having to clutch as much coming to stops now | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Less engine braking takes time to get used to from the stock setttings, but I believe it makes riding fast easier. | ||
| Babboo |
Can the Erik Buell Racing ECM be programmed with a low idle rpm & no engine braking? | ||
| Jaimec |
Huh??? Not sure how the Buell works, but when I roll the throttle off of my K1200LT, the injectors shut off so it's not injecting any fuel until I roll the throttle back on again. That's SAVING gas, not wasting it. Per Reg Pridmore's C.L.A.S.S. (which, by the way, is NOT a racing class), the easiest way down a twisty road is to run in a lower gear than you normally do, keep the revs up and use "T.M." (throttle management) to control your speed. Falls right in line with Nick Ienatsch's philosophy of "The Pace", which is EXACTLY how I ride the backroads on whatever bike I'm on. | ||
| Froggy |
When you slow down, you are wasting energy you have built up by burning gas. Engine braking will also eat up your rear tire. With the reduced engine braking I do not slow down as much, reducing the need to consume more energy to speed back up. |
