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Torontobuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Hello Folks,

What is an easy way to turn the engine for the primary chain inspection? I was thinking that one can turn the wheel (in fifth gear and ok to leave plugs in i've read here) or use a big wrench on the front belt sprocket to turn the engine? Please let me know.

Cheers
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I turn the wheel in fifth, works OK I guess. I'm never sure I've actually found the tightest spot in chain.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I put mine up on a rear stand with the tranny in 5th. I lay beside the bike and turn the engine by putting my foot on the tire, plugs out.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Its a royal pain in the ass no matter what you do, then you have to adjust the chain and that never goes right.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Never goes right for Froggy.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Yea, and it's why he convinced himself that changing valve shims on his 1125CR will be MUCH easier...
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Torontobuell
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Cheers. Thanks for the advice.

So to be sure. I can lift the bike up. Put the bike in fifth gear. Rotate the wheel in gear and I should be able to advance the chain. If I remove the spark plugs; this will make turning the wheel easier, or much easier. Also, to remove the spark plug boots do you use a tool or try by hand?

Thanks again
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
That's the procedure. I'd recommend using the tool. You may get them off without it, but you almost have to have the tool to get them back on.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I use a tool cause I can't get my hand in there.
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Rubysdaddy
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
That's what she said.
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Invisible_monster
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
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Torontobuell
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
You bunch of nutters. Thanks for this. BWB has been a great resource since I started riding a BUELL. Thanks again for all the advice and tips folks.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Good one, Rubysdaddy!
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Ray_r
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
My nearly new '09 (300 miles) has had a very stiff shift since I got it. Is this normal for a new bike and it will go away with more miles? Or do I need a primary adjustment?
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Gambito
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I use the starter motor to jog the engine over.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
It will loosen up a bit.
Mine came with the clutch adjusted a bit wrong so that it dragged a little.
Just one easy thing to check : )
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Ulyranger
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
"My nearly new '09 (300 miles) has had a very stiff shift since I got it. Is this normal for a new bike and it will go away with more miles? Or do I need a primary adjustment?"

My 08 shifted "stiffly" when new and neutral was at times a mystery.... By the break-in service it was much better, after a few thousand miles it was sweet. Sounds like you need some wear in time is all. Now go ride it...........
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Take the RPMs up to about 1500 and try to shift lightly into neutral. Something about the way the lump throbs at 1500 lets mine drop right in.
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Pso
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Never noticed recently so it must be an easy shift for me.
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I pulled the plugs on mine this weekend so I took the time to try to find the "tight" spot in my primary chain. I couldn't find one. Everywhere I checked it (every few inches of length) it was the same. That will make future adjustments a lot easier.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Rwven Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 07:47 am:

I pulled the plugs on mine this weekend so I took the time to try to find the "tight" spot in my primary chain. I couldn't find one. Everywhere I checked it (every few inches of length) it was the same. That will make future adjustments a lot easier.

Cold or operating temp?
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Cold. Heat shouldn't affect the tightness in any one area right? Heat expansion makes the chain tighter overall when the engine is hot. I know the cold settings call for more slack in the chain at it's tightest spot.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
Rwven- sounds logical to me. Most people say they find two tight spots, but I guess every now and then the chain, sprockets, crankshaft, etc. are made basically dead-on accurate so you get a bike like yours.
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Pso
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)
I did not remove plugs to check chain. Just put bike on stand and rotated rear wheel by hand. Stupidly I had changed plugs and then decided to check chain so I di not intend to pull new plugs out. jackass backwards I suppose, but i tworked for me.
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