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Xbud
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finally finished the mods for the upcoming riding season, installed the Free Spirits slip on exhaust, EBR Race ECM, clear Taillight, Fender Eliminator, High Bar kit, Adjustable Mirrors and Flush Mount front signals....It is running fantastic, and sounds great too, definately not too loud, not too soft.


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Dvy_bby9
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exhaust looks great, matches the bike perfectly!
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Chessm
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ya thats easily the best looking of all the aftermarket ones
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Buellerandy
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any word on if/when it needs to be repacked?

Also a cost plz: )
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

was it expensive?
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Dvy_bby9
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty sure the FS exhaust doesn't need to be repacked. I would have a FS full system if it wasn't so expensive.

I think the slip-on is around $1,100 or so?
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Mr_t_1125r
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those FS's with your color bike rocks!
If only they made a version to fit the 08' colors, maybe blue rings instead of red and I would be buying, and what were they thinking of the nasty red spring on the 08's, looks great on yours.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a hot looking machine. Love the red/black theme. The exhaust is making me drool. Nice.
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Xb9er
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xbud, Are you coming to the Res Ride? Look it up on the pa storm front or pm toona


Bike looks amazing
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Rogo66
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FS had some trouble with the cans towards the front turning color on these. Seems they've fixed that problem, but the red ring at the front will turn a light orange color over time... Mine has!!!
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Jeepinbueller
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder how much it would cost to take the slipon version to a performance shop and get an X-pipe welded into that longer straight run. Then you'd have a ghetto version of the full system, at least you'll have a crossover for scavenging. Haha, look at me pretending to know what I'm talking about. That would help though, wouldn't it?

Bike looks great BTW. That and the KEDA v3 and FMF full are the best looking pipes for the 1125 to date IMHO.
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Captain_america
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can we hear it please...?
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Rogo66
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a video I made of mine... Used a camera which didn't do it justice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyvTosycqJM&feature =related
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Xbud
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I made an install video for my father in law that sold the system to me, at the end of the video is a brief sound clip after 6:00 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8YvyZrex2w

The video had to be converted so the quality is degraded some. Hope it helps, by the way my father in law is looking to do a group buy to save on shipping, let me know if anyone is interested. Thanks
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anybody needs help on the groupbuy, let me help.. mayby it helps, maybe it doesn't

I also have a very nice fuelmap made for free spirits, will be available through http://www.fuelsolutions.nl
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Puredrive
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be down for a GB
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Mac_inger
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xbud,..install video was great o watch. Thanks for that. I might be down for a GB too. I am loosing sleep trying to choose between this one and the HPE. Beauty vs Sound....
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Puredrive
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HPE sounds horrible. At least it does on the youtube videos that I have seen.
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Mac_inger
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HPE actually has the lowest deepest rumble from the options out there. It sounds like a v8 engine. Most of the tube videos are pretty bad,..i think there is one in which you can hear it better. Ill try to find the link.
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Mr_t_1125r
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be in if FS could either do a black or a blue anodize instead of the red as that is the only thing holding me back, that red just wouldn't look great with the 08 colors. The black anodize at the front will turn a faded purple and the red will go orange due to the heat. Anodize is only about .0005" thick, a ceramic based hardcoat anodize which the base spec is .004" thick and more heat resistant.
MIL-SPEC 8625, type 3, class 2 black is what you want.
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Xbud
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We could always just do them in silver, front and rear, I wish I would have done that now. I might take mine apart (It unbolts) and have it polished.
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Easyrider
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a graph, Between our slip-on and the one from FS.

Somebody ask me to post it

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Court
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>installed the Free Spirits slip on exhaust, EBR Race ECM

Very cool! . . and it doesn't surprise me.

I have an engineer friend, who refuses to get into internet discussions, who recently read the account of one of the ERIK BUELL RACING ECM's having a problem.

He did what I wanted to . . . he took 6 of them to a dyno, took a brand new (simply broken in bike) and went to work testing.

His results were the same as yours and the most the reports I've read.

Glad to hear it!

Court
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Court

Very Pleased with my EBR ECM

As far as the HPE exhaust , I agree with Mac , the HPE is very deep , rich sound , that does sound like a V8 , I think most cameras cant handle the BASS , and you will need a sub-woofer to even begin to duplicate the sound of the HPE .
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Yamatr3
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court Quote **He did what I wanted to . . . he took 6 of them to a dyno, took a brand new (simply broken in bike) and went to work testing. **

Were these results posted anywhere? If they were, I must have missed them.

I'm not trying to say the EBR ECM is bad or anything, just wondering about those dyno sheets.

I just ordered an FMF exhaust last week and am trying to decide which route to go on the FI, Power Commander, EBR ECM or with Dris.

Xbud, sorry for the small thread jack, Love those pipes!!
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Chevycummins
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would go with the EBR ECM, good things will happen.
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court.... thats good info to know...have any dyno sheets to post up?
What were the mods to the test bike?

Just out of curiousity what do you think was the issue with the one BAD ECM?
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Court.... that’s good info to know...have any dyno sheets to post up?

My sense is that it was for comfort and confirmation only and no one felt any need to post anything.

>>>>What were the mods to the test bike?

I'm not exactly sure . . I got the thumbnail version while walking through a friends shop last weekend when I saw the 1125s in the brand new dyno room. I got the impression that a brand new 1125R, broken in per spec, was rolled into the dyno room for base line readings and then tests done with a variety of ECMs.

>>>>Just out of curiosity what do you think was the issue with the one BAD ECM?

No clue. I'm a construction worker. But I'm also a student of statistics and when a person posted that "all EBR stuff was garbage" my curiosity was piqued as to why none of the previous 200+ purchasers had registered any displeasure.

Again . . . the exercise was more for personal comfort than to gather data for an internet sword fight.

I had, and continue to have, full confidence in the EBR ECM.
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still think that a ECM that belongs to a exhaust and is programmed on the dyno for that purpose gives the most pleasure for the dollar... ()-:
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Tbenson
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That pipe looks great Xbud, a little expensive for my budget, but looks and sounds great on the video clips I have watched!
Good job!
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Dirty_john
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My EBR race ECM has been delivered and I look forward to fitting it and the K&N filter this weekend, I have great expectations which have grown after reading all the posts on this forum, I ordered it in Feb but UK customs only just released it.
Since over here we have to have the sidestand switch fitted Michael kindly modded the code so I can keep the functionality.
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1972rvbb
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easyrider, you are right, an ECM is design for one package (exhaust, filter,...).

This also means that your graph comparing your slip on and FS may not be fair unless both use own programed ECM's.
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Xbud
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep in mind the EBR ECU is using the O2 sensors, and can learn lean conditions and adjust. The same as the stock ECU
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1972rvbb,

I always compare apples with apples in my sheets.

The graph shows 2 slip-ons fully adjusted.
Let's call it the final product made in the same dyno, with the same bike. with the same ECM.

Xbud,
When the individual cells and ignition cells, are not adjusted to the exhaust, You can never have a smooth and strong running bike. I agree that the 02 sensors will try to keep up, but it will be like walking on the moon.
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