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Blackstripes
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know that EBR has a cheaper and easier way to tune our bikes, but i was wondering if anyone has used :

http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/power commander_v.aspx?mk=21&mdl=318&yr=2009

Seems like they have maps for exhaust & K&N.

anyone?
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Freight_dog
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes they have, and at the risk of sounding like a troll, the results of the EBR plug and play ECM have been spotty while the PC V has had uniformly good results with dyno setup.
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats interesting...did anyone notice that they have a tune for a HMF pipe, K&N, and Race ecm....??

A PCV can make improvements on a race ecm...?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

A PCV can make improvements on a race ecm...?




Yes, being that the HMF isn't the exhaust the Race ECM was made for.
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Speedy818
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So to use the PCV with an aftermarket exhaust and the stock ECM, it's dyno time or the autolearn module?
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Freight_dog
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Certainly if you were to get the programmable ECM and have your bike setup on a dyno, you would get superior results since the PC V is just a piggyback and doesn't control as many parameters (e.g. timing). Unfortunately, it might be a challenge finding a dyno tuner willing to work with the software, and getting an EBR ECM with dyno time will cost twice what a PC V and setup will.
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Redbat
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not surprised they have a map for the HMF, K&N, and EBRacing ECM. I've been using the EBRacing ECM with a Daytona Twin Tec module, and I like it. I was able to boost my mid-range torq considerably.

By the way, I'm running a D&D pipe, and stock filter.
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Newtobuells
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, check out the pc5 stock map. lots of fuel added, as much as 20% in some spots. it'd be interesting to see how much the mileage is affected.
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Steve899
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No Bazzaz??
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Captain_america
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll tune a programmable ECM if someone gets one
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am running a PCV, K&N filter and HMF pipe, the power is excellent, the torque is linear and smooth, my mileage has not changed really at all, around 35mpg, I do have a tendency to be on the throttle so stock or tuned I ride fast. The bike is so good that I cannot imagine how I rode it stock after riding it this way. It pulls smooth from 2500 rpms all the way to rev limit, I can put at 2500 or 3000 rpm in 3rd gear and it is just like my old XB was, easy. When you get on it you must be holding on it pulls like a beast, similar to my dirt bike. My dyno sheets are posted in the dyno charts section, although some have issue with them, whatever, those are the charts I have and everyone that has either ridden my bike or be dusted by it will attest that the chart is accurate. Cornering is much better because it is so incredibly smooth. I am very happy with the PCV and wouldn't want anything else. Hope this helps.
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Freight_dog
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To answer Speedy818's question, yes you will want to dyno tune your powercommander or get autotune for best results. If you intend to use the supplied maps, you might as well buy the EBR ECM. You will get better results that way for less.
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm really considering one of these...
Any other owners out there with one?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JTS is testing one as I type - lol - contact them.
EZ
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Easyrider
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THE pc Will not work propper, because it is mot able to correct every individual cell, the cells that are too rich, will be more richener, and THE poor cells, get richer, this can never be à good solutions, when you keep the 02 sensors connected, THE bike Will try too lean out because it Will correct of THE rich mixture, find à 100% fitted solution to THE exhaust setup, dont go for les.....
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the PCV you disconnect the o2 sensors so there is no feedback. Only enviromental changes.

atleast thats how i understand it.
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