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Jules
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 08:28 am: | 
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I believe it's sub 3k that the bike will be using more power than is being replaced so doubt a couple of hundred RPM would make a difference..
I didn't realise you could specify a lower idle with the race ECM, I might well do that when I get mine  |
D_adams
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:00 am: |
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You know you can do that on a stock ecm as well, right? |
Jeepinbueller
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:03 am: |
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Do tell? Would this be with ECMSpy/Mono (I have no idea what the difference is). |
D_adams
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:25 am: |
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Ecmread/tunerpro. 3rd section (bottom one) it's the Idle Air Control Map. |
Jeepinbueller
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:44 am: |
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Looks like I'll have to get a cable and start looking around. Gotta' read that writeup that x did. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 12:07 pm: |
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I'll have to check out ECMRead. Does it also allow you to disable the noid in the ECM? That would be very convenient! |
D_adams
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 12:34 pm: |
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Ecmread only pulls the eeprom info from the bike and will write back to it. Nothing else. Tunerpro allows you to manipulate the data and has a graph display for each map. I haven't played with it much yet myself, but there are a large number of variables to play with and you could quite easily do some major damage to your bike. Proceed with caution is all I can really suggest. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 04:55 pm: |
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So, translation: "Don't eff with it, just buy an ECM or a tune." |
D_adams
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 05:07 pm: |
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Nope, not what I'm saying there. Just be careful of what you do and keep good records of changes. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 05:12 pm: |
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Honestly, I don't know the first thing about tuning a bike. Chances are I'd spend a lot of time messing with it and end up with something that was, at best, a marginal improvement but possibly much worse. Yeah, if I took notes of what I changed, I could go back to stock but I'd still have wasted all of that time. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 05:21 pm: |
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quote:Does it also allow you to disable the noid in the ECM?
I haven't had a chance to test it, but I do see the option. Change a 1 to a 0. |
D_adams
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 06:21 pm: |
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This is where a wideband controller setup comes in very handy, or if you've got an extra $4-5000 handy, an EGA machine with a dyno. A 4 (or 5) gas analyzer on a dyno with load testing is definitely the best way to get maximum results, but there aren't very many out there. I've only seen and used two 4-gas analyzers in my life, once was in school 20 something years ago and then the year after I got out. After I moved back to the St Louis area, I haven't had the option to use one since, they just simply weren't around to be utilized. For a small shop, it's extremely expensive, for a large shop that doesn't know what it's for, it's a waste of $$ and time. For the tuner that knows what it is and how to use it, it's a goldmine. I wish I had one. Tuning is soooo much easier when you have instant readings and know what you're looking at.
The cheaper route for doing your own tuning is the wideband O2 sensor route and lots of testing/data-logging. Verify the changes with the occasional dyno run, unless you have easy and cheap access to a dyno. Wideband will get you very close to it's max potential. An EGA machine will get it exact, but both take a lot of time for the initial testing. |
Tbarker
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 08:04 pm: |
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I agree with D and 4 gas analyzers are great but most people do not know what to do with them. If the dyno doesn't have a load cell it is very difficult to tune a fuel injected bike correctly. |
Big_fitz
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:33 pm: |
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Well the slip-ons been on for a week , went ride tonight and it seems to be runing bad now !
When I kill it and go to start it back up while it's still hot it dosent want to start right back up like usual , and it's bucking more , but I have an ebr ECM coming in Friday , so I'll let y'all know if that helps out . |
Leechykyle
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:57 pm: |
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I took my EBR ECM off today because I'm heading to the dealer tomorrow to inquire about a some stuff... charging system recall thing, actually. And on my trip back to my apartment, I noticed a few things.
I haven't been able to notice any real increase in power with my Barker's, K&N, and ECM. No "I can't keep the front wheel down"-ness... which is sadly what I was expecting.
But, the driveability with the EBR ECM is GREATLY improved. Totally smoothed out the bucking at low RPMs, which I noticed right away today when I switched back to the stock one. And there's no exhaust popping on decel with the EBR either. None. And quite a bit with the stock.
Also, my AFR values after a pretty short ride home with my stock ECM - 110.5 front, 100 rear. EBR - 100/100.
Those good things far outweigh anything that could be said bad about the ECM. Best money I've spent on my R.
And hell.. maybe I'll pull the quiet core out tomorrow before I venture to the dealer. Just to see what might change. And it'll help me blend in with all the big, loud Harleys at that place. |
Zip88
| | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 09:35 am: |
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Got to love the adjustability of the Barker |
Big_fitz
| | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 05:21 pm: |
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Just put the ebr ECM on . Wow what a difference !!
I can idle very easy in low gears without all the jerking. Seems to pull a bit harder also !
It just runs so smooth now . |
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