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Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 11:44 am: | 
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Well, all my bikes are on the latest flash, for what its worth.
You can simply unplug it and just swap in the resistor plug, you don't need to remove the whole thing. It does weigh quite a bit, so I recommend removal next time your happen to have the lid off. |
Bptex
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 05:58 pm: |
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I was only getting about 25% throttle with the noid intact. Seriously, I had a Shadow 600 with more guts. Since it was breaking in still I assumed it had a whole lot more power over 6k rpm, which it does, but with the noid mine was a dog. Now it's a lot more fun |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 06:18 pm: |
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Does the noid kick in just in 3rd gear at 4500rpm (or around that range), or does it kick in at other points?
I've noticed some hesitation when rolling on the throttle in various gears and even at higher RPM (6000 or more). I've also noticed a reluctance to rev when I blip the throttle to rev match for downshifts. Curiously, this only seems to happen after having ridden the bike for 20-30 minutes. If I'm on a short trip, I don't seem to have any such rideability issues. I do wait for the motor to warm up before giving it any significant throttle as well.
I am definitely going to remove the noid--just waiting for my resistor to arrive. I'm just wondering if I can expect the symptoms I'm experiencing to go away once the noid is disconnected. |
Milleniumx1
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 06:39 pm: |
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Mine ('09R) would kick in on its original 131 flash and its updated latest 142 flash. I can trip mine almost each time I've tried. Even when you're expecting it to happen, it's still unnerving. I can't imagine having it happen when I wasn't ready for it ... I'm perfectly happy with the $6 termination plug.
Mike |
Joebuell
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 09:44 pm: |
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I too have not gotten "noided" even when trying.
I'll give it another shot tomorrow, we'll see.
(09 CR, May build, latest ((152?)) flash) |
Dirty_john
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 05:05 am: |
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I helped Chester HD run in their 1125R demo bike when they first came out and then rode it again about 6 months later and got noided.
Therefore when I took delivery of my 09 1125R in Nov 08 the first thing I did was whip out the noid system and fit the Buell resistor - being noided once is enough, scared the hell out of me |
Joebuell
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 01:35 pm: |
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still no noid this moring. tried like hell to activate it. Though I don't know why somebody would be down that low in rpm's going wot anyways....
I feel like I'm left out. I have the resistor plug, just waiting for just cause to install it. |
Milleniumx1
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 02:34 pm: |
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On mine, I can't roll into it ... In other words, if I'm around 4,800 in 3rd and roll into WOT somewhat casually, nothing happens. But if I'm in 3rd at 4,800 and whack the throttle open all the way instantly, shut down!
Well, not shut down any longer since I installed the resistor. Now it's just a CEL to remind me it would have happened, which clears when you cycle the ignition key.
Mike |
Brumbear
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 04:34 pm: |
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Chances are they won't even notice it isn't there if they do just say what did you do I didn't touch that!!!!!!!!!!!
Froggy I had a noid attack rite next to you on the headless horseman last Oct I about shyt myself I cracked it coming around a turn with Froggy close enough I could have hit his blinker and the sumbotch blawed out I quick double clutched the throttle like and it settled down.
And I am standing here in front of GOD and all to tell ya Froggy will WOT a machine mpg be dammed |
Bptex
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 05:04 pm: |
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I just pulled the cable off and zip tied it to itself, is there any harm in doing this? |
Ottobotz
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 08:36 am: |
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Anyone-
I have read somewhere that the EBR pump gas ecm, installed will take care of this attack of the "noid". Is this true? Anyone with this type of ecm from EBR have still been noided?
I still plan on removing it, but if the EBR ecm takes care of it do I still need a resistor plug?
Just curious, so when I order my EBR ecm, if I should order both.
I too, like Froggy have tried and tried, different gears, low RPMs, WOT, and still havent been "noided", but I dont want to take any chances when I'm not expecting it. |
Ottobotz
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 09:00 am: |
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-What is the part # for the resistor? And where do I order it from?
I was just on the EBR and Buell site and never saw it on there. |
Bsdfool
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 09:07 am: |
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Buell resistor part # Y0248.1AM
You can order from http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/18022.html |
Reducati
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 09:07 am: |
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with the ebr race ecm, you will not activate the noid. i have the race ecm, and spoke with ebr racing who told me this. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 09:09 am: |
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Hm. I've never been noided either...now to find that damned resistor I have in a baggie out in the garage somewhere......might as well do that while I'm doing my 620 |
Milleniumx1
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 10:26 am: |
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My dealer wasn't bothered by the resistor at my 620, I even explained that the stored code (resets itself after 50 cycles) they'd see during the check was because the noid tried to activate but didn't because of the resistor. The H/W is still there.
Even so, it's going back soon for the charging system harness work, so I removed the resistor and reconnected things per original. With the American Sport Bike quick-release seat pins, the whole 'reversal' took me about 45 seconds. Have it at boys ...
Mike |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 11:58 am: |
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Mike;
I just looked at American Sport Bike seat kit. cool stuff!
THX |
Milleniumx1
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 07:04 pm: |
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Danny, I kind of happened onto them accidentally ... I added the seat pins to my denoid resistor order, and didn't install them for weeks. But once I did, I could never go back! |
Nattyx1
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:47 pm: |
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this may have been asked and answered elsewhere (sorry if that's the case), but does one NEED to denoid a 2010 (other than to shed the couple pounds of weight?) |
Froggy
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:57 pm: |
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No 1125's need to be denoided. |
Nattyx1
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:00 pm: |
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Well if that's the case, what's with all the denoiding? I mean, certainly no one NEEDS a bike to fall on its face in third gear either...
Ergo my question should have been posed as follows:
Will a 2010 CR sometimes do crappy things because this solenoid system is in place and active? |
Froggy
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:19 pm: |
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Solenoid actuation is 100% driver error. Like stated above, I got two bikes and have never had it happen, despite all my trying. Hell I never had it happen on two demo bikes either. |
Nattyx1
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:05 pm: |
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I haven't had it happen either. But then I haven't tried to go WOT in too tall of a gear. Maybe I need to unlearn how to make the most out of a motorcycle's engine, transmission and final gearing so I can have new parts to buy and OEM parts to remove?
Kinda feels like I'm missing out on some of the fun here...
Yes, that was snotty and facetious. Sorry.
Well, maybe not totally 'sorry.'
So lemme ask: is this solenoid "issue" really only happening in this one situation: Low rpm (aka 3500rpm) in a middle gear (3rd) with the instant and complete ham-fisted whack-open to full throttle? IF so, ok, probably it'd be better that there was no fall-on-face effect at ANY point, EVER... no argument there.
But IF it's the case that it only happens in this situation, here's what all this leaves me thinking:
I didn't get the CR because I want to feel the "thrilling" acceleration of a 70hp motorcycle (or whatever power our engines are making at 3500rpm). Did you?
When I want or need to just be mellow and roll around town, I'm at 1/4-1/2 throttle or thereabouts. When I want or need to get maximum acceleration, it's NOT because I wanna go "WOT" (per se) just to say I went "WOT" or "WFO". It's because I want my eyeballs shoved into the back of my head and the front tire dancing and the world whooshing by and that FEELING of being on THIS MOTORCYCLE which isn't a dumb old lumbering cruiser where it's ok to roll on all the gas at a third of redline because the thing is such a pig it doesn't matter anyway.
Whew. Ok. I'm ranting...I admit it.
But this is a sport bike... and like ANY sport bike or sports car, you need to be athletic with it. Use the clutch and gearbox correctly. Give the bike what it needs when it needs it. Be rewarded by that. Ride it badly, be punished by that. This is the 'bargain' we make with such machines (as opposed to the one you'd make with a Prius or a scooter or a suzuki intruder or a hyosang 250, etc).
Alright. I've donned my armor. Flame away.
Or don't. That would be ok too.
:-)
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Jdugger
| | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 05:16 pm: |
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This has been discussed a bunch of times, and you will get a lot of argument on both sides of the fence.
Q. What do you do with riders that insist the 'noid is an issue?
A. Pass them. |
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