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Smitty1125r
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just ordered my new slip-on from Barkers, order #48... hopefully see it thursday or friday... anyone had a problem running these before tune? I plan on ordering a ecm from EB racing.......
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Rock_lobster
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ha, beat me to it! I'm #49. I haven't posted here yet, but have been checking out the forums in search of a slip on. Glad I looked here before ordering the FMF. I like the look of the Barkers. I'm wondering if I'll need to tune mine or buy the ECM as well. We'll see...
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Jornum1
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have not had any problems without a tune, and know several others who are satisfied as well. I posted up a video on here a few days ago. You can tell it runs pretty strong on the stock tune. I am running the oldest flash as well(for now).
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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

where are barkers dyno sheets?
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Keef
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you dont have too BUT you really want to i have that set up ran factory ecm K&N barker exhaust yes it likes the ebr better and so will you....
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Rock_lobster
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went ahead and ordered the ECM last night as well. While I'm working on it, I might as well do it all at once. I guess I had better get the K&N as well. Hopefully by the time I get all of my parts, I can have my new harness installed. I'm going to have a new bike by the time this is all over with.
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Rock_lobster
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just ordered the K&N...

my tax return burned a hole right through my pocket.
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Leechykyle
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ordered a K&N, ecm, and a barker's just this past Friday. I'm pumped to get it all and install it.
Just don't tell my girlfriend. Lol.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anybody know where barkers dyno sheets are?
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Freight_dog
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask twice and you shall receive...

http://www.barkersexhaust.com/atv-utv-motorcycle-e xhausts/Motorcycle/Buell/1125-R/View-all-products. html

Tim says this was done with a borrowed demo bike from Ray C's HD in Lapeer, MI. And the blue line was witha K & N. No tuning.

(Message edited by Freight_dog on March 15, 2010)
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Freight_dog
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those results are crazy. Assuming they are legit, there must be some real dark art to exhaust setup, because looking at Barkers and a Jardine side by side, I have no idea why one would show big gains and the other none at all.

The same question, with D-adams exhausts, why would his first two designs show no gains, but his third, just a straight through perforated round can with a very similar layout to a Jardine, would gain like 8 hp with more through the midrange? Even Dean didn't expect that. It's crazy!

(Message edited by Freight_dog on March 15, 2010)
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Tbarker
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a little dark art and a whole lot of math

James at RayC's ran the Dyno test for us. I like to have different shops run the dyno so it is non biased results.

(Message edited by tbarker on March 15, 2010)
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Craiga
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have any pics of a Barker in black powdercoat???
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Puzzled
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Craiga there should be some pics of black Barkers exhausts here soon. I know Tim has sent a few out for me already and I ordered a few more so they are getting out there. As soon as I get some I'll post them.

(Message edited by puzzled on March 15, 2010)
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Scottorious
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yah all these exhausts and the gains either makes me think that things were fudged a little bit or buell just really neutered the poor 1125r to meet emissions specs. I hope the latter is the case. It is pretty awesome to see 15 horsepower gains over stock at the rear wheel, SWEET! I cant wait to see what people start pulling out of these engines. It seems like they have a lot of potential.
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My black one is I think the first one ordered from Tim but I could be wrong..

It is still stuck in customs purgatory and I am sitting here with the EBR race ECM in my hands...

GRRRR
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Gofast
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed my black barker last Saturday. Looks great, much lights, love it.

Rob
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Wastegate
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Selfish, were are the pics?
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Gofast
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bike is in shop for the 620 checkup and charging system recall. Pics after bake is back. I had the camera out, but after putting the Barker on the bike, i forgot all about taking pics. Went on a little 140 mile ride instead.
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Easyrider
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am still waiting on my test example from Mr. Barker, to test and make a fuelmap. As soon as i arrives, I will test it and post results.
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Jules
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine's still stuck in UK Customs! 6 days it's been there and they haven't even sent me a letter to tell me how much I have to pay to see it!
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only problem to me with the Barker's is the Cackle you hear at a high rpm range. Maybe its just the quality of the vids, but the tone seems to get really weird in that upper range! IDK?
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Puzzled
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^^^The bike actually goes quiet above 75. I was surprised at how quiet the exhaust got as the speed climed. Around town under 3k and it maintains the "Apache" helicopter sound. Above the 3k mark and it starts to make some noise. This was all with the 1 5/8 (Large) core in. I have a 1 1/2" core on its way to try out. I'm thinking that will be "THE" sound I'm after.
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Jornum1
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on what Puzzled said. Being that I took one of the videos, its definitely my camcorder that makes it sound like that.
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Jeepinbueller
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a relief ... glad it's loud and deep enough.
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Big_fitz
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just ordered my barkers !! Just wondering if I should get the ebr ECM for pump gas .
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Jornum1
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had the Barker for about 2 weeks now running a stock tune and K&N fliter. I dont see any need for a another ecm or tune. I guess it depends on your goals. If your looking for maximum performance I am sure the ebr would help. Personally I am happy with it as is. I dont notice any drop in performance over the stock muffler, and the sound is right where I want it. I use the smaller quiet core for my street riding, and the larger one for my back country riding. Tim told me that the smallest quiet core will probably lose some midrange power, while the larger one(1 5/8"), should retain the midrange and still quiet the exhaust a bit.
If you really want a tune, I would wait for Easyrider to get his and make a tune specific to the exhaust. Hopefully he will have a option to flash it over the net soon.
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Jules
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine's just cleared customs.. The bill was about $110 but that's OK I just found out that we're getting a bonus this year and mine's $10k!! - considering I wasn't expecting one that's a pretty good thing.

It pays for the bike, all of the accessories and still leaves me with lots to play with.

I'll be picking the Barker up from the PO tonight so will probably fit it this weekend... although I know i shouldn't as I haven't had the 620 mile check done yet... But I figure I can always swap it back if I have to..
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Prowler
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anybody actually ran a BACK TO BACK dyno run going from stock to the set-up Barker claims 17 hp gains from? I'm waiting to see if these numbers are really believable before I even consider one of the Barker pipes. I canceled my order for the FMF pipe as I've been waiting a month and still haven't seen it.........
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Jornum1
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will happily do that, even run the different quiet cores. You just need to send me the $ for the dyno time ; )

Not everyone can afford the dyno time, I would love to have it done, but just cant justify the cost.
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