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Louisiana_xrider
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just pulled the solenoid linkage off, and i zip-tied the throttles together.

But after i finished and and rotated the throttle, it was very slow to return to closed position.

Is this a normal condition? Has anyone had any problems because of this?
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Jules
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No - that's not normal...
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Louisiana_xrider
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It did return without, any extra force, it was just slower than it was when the solenoid was hooked up.

Previously it would "SNAP" shut real fast when you let go of throttle.

Now it closes, but not with the same "SNAP" that it had before.
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Jasbiz66
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gotta have something dragging and not letting it snap back then
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Gemini
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have heard of the breather hose that goes into the bottom of the lower airbox that doesn't get routed right during reinstall that causes that problem.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

look at it again you got something hanging and make sure you didn't put the block on the wire tie so close to the throttlebody it drags a bit.
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Therealassmikeg
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

go to the first post of this thread.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/539969.html?1266514267

look at the hose to the left of the throttle body (in the center) pull it through the airbox so it looks the same as the pic.
That hose rubs on the throttle linkage causing it to not return right and bind when opening.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IAC hose rubbing on the throttle link that connects throttle bodies together.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure your cables aren't bound up somewhere.
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Nickg
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the reason i just unplugged the solenoind and plugged in the resiter...leaving the rest all as is
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Milleniumx1
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nickg, that makes two of us. I'm a tinkerer, but didn't like the risk vs reward equation for me pulling the whole thing out. I might someday ... But it's doubtful.

Mike
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03fatboy
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the same issue. It was the breather hose. Use a pair of needle nose pliers and pull that hose up so it sticks out about 1/2 inch out of the bottom airbox.
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Sharkytattoo
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, any of you ever try reading the Service Manual?
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah it says don't take it off that's a load of hooey so lets move on to what might be causing the problem
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Dannybuell
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At 480 mi and with most of my suspension setup behind me I pulled the seat off and plugged the solenoid replacement in. Nothing else.

I just got back from a planned ride that finishes on a steep climb up a 1000 foot hill at 25mph. I have climbed this several times before the denoid including once about two hours ago. Each time it bucked the entire way up in second gear at 3100rpm 27mph. My last trip up the hill denoided same speed and rpms. leanness but not bucking. The throttle does not draw down as quickly because the noid isn't sharply pulling it back. I like this very modest dieseling, I know it will make gear changes much easier to coordinate.

All in all that's the best $7.00 I have ever spent on a motorcycle.
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Louisiana_xrider
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all of the help guys,

I know my hose isn't pulled that far through the box, so i guess that will be my problem.
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03fatboy
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I disconnected the noid it took me about 30 mins to figure out why my throttle was binding, that hose was the issue.
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