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Roadrash1
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 12:12 pm: |
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Lib, Glad you are a survivor. I went down in an MX race 7 years ago and had the next guy over the jump land on my face. Had the fullface on, but still broke my jaw and a few teeth. Probably be dead if I had been laying there face-down...... |
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Hondaamer
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 04:08 pm: |
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Hey guys, american sport bikes has a new riser for the xb9r. It raises the bars up 1 inch and back 1.5 inches. I'm not sure if this is enough for a long ride. I put on 322 miles last month on a saturday, and my back and wrists were killing me. What do you think? |
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Chauly
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 07:55 pm: |
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I have to second Mike "Buellish" Powell's assessment of the BRAG "Carving the Northeast" Adventure ride. It was a hoot and a half! I clocked 3300 miles by the time I got home, my tires are toast, and I didn't get stranded by anything. I did have the detent lever loosen, screwing up my shifting, but Battlefield H-D put it to rights, (nearly... isn't there a new detent cam out there?), and on the way home I stopped at Shaeffer's H-D/Buell in Orwigsburg PA to have the last recall work done on my bike. Why, you may ask? Well, it seems that my former dealer neglected to do the swing-arm/ rear isolator replacement, and the bike developed a hinge in the middle about 2/3 or the way through the BRAG ride. The left rear isolator was gradually shearing, and it was just about gone by the time I got to Shaeffer's. They have a great shop, and "Seven" did a highly competent and motivated job getting me back on the road. (The shock was replaced as well, even though it had been replaced during the recall. The card was never sent in, I suppose...) The bike rides much better. The engine now has 4000 miles on it, so I guess it's breaking in pretty well. Kevin Smith shared a motel room on the ride with me, and was headed for Nova Scotia after the BRAG ride. His '95 S2 will have about 68,000 on it when he gets back. He's never been in that engine for anything; I'm envious! I dragged Mark Petit ('96 Red S-1)from Tallahassee FL all over Vermont on one day. He was kept guessing all day as to where we were, and by 4:00 pm, we were 30 miles from where we started the day! (Did you know it's 400 miles from Plattsburg NY to Conway NH?) Louis, he never complained once.... We only had one day of rain riding, and even then I dragged Kevin so far north into Upstate NY that it stopped, and the last three hours of riding was in the sunshine (unlike our "less-lost" group to the south!) High points: The AMA museum in Pickerington with its "100 years of H-D Racing" exhibit,Eastern OH, all of WV, Central PA, the Adirondacks,the clam chowder at the Long Lake NY Irish Pub, Central VT, the weather, and the people! Low points: Um, uh...oh, yeah... the crummy NH roads. Great views, lousy pavement. The directions given in the BRAG guidebook. Oh, and RAX, the "restaurant" that tastes like it sounds! (Right, Matt?) I'd do it again, maybe around the Blue Ridge Mountains? Charlie Smallman |
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Ferris
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:13 am: |
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Blake, my life is puck-deep into a sweeping high-speed turn, leaving little time these days to read or write or ride. hmmm, comparo? my '96 S2, the BLURR, is a wonderful sport-touring weapon, smooth, composed, unique, and fun. alas, i haven't swung a leg over it since July '99. my VFR, a '98 model, is every bit as good as the mags say. at 51,000 miles and counting, it still does not use a drop of oil between changes, is all-day comfy, pulls nicely from 2 grand to 12 grand, and will hum along for hours at 150 indicated if you've got the financial courage. my '98 S1W, the Thong, is a fabulous all-purpose machine, made moreso by the Twintail option and (slightly) more comfortable seat. at 80 mph and above, tho, the wind blast is considerable. still, it gets the looks and comments like no other, and makes me feel much more studly than i actually am. Lib, get fast soon. Chauly, great to see your name on here. Laguna Seca, 4-Play, SPLASH, and AfterGlow are coming. are you??? FB ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/cool.gif) |
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Jim_sb
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:30 am: |
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Ferris, I thought you were selling the VFR? As for the S2, why is she idle? |
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Jmartz
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:57 am: |
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Visited Milwaukee this past week. Took my bike up for some helmetless riding. Ended up at Hal's HD where I had the good fortune to view a, now retired, Lightning series factory built bike. An X1 framed, dual carbed bike with an early steel swingarm and a huge oil cooler inside a full fairing. Could not make out how the dual carbs were fitted. The front head seemed stock. The rear was different but the tightness of all the parts made it impossible to view clearly. The rear brake disc was milled and it was fitted with Marchesini magnesium wheels painted black. The front dual rotors were missing. I think they might be in use on a current bike. I was told it is overbored and produced in its hey day 130 RWHP. The carbs stuck out quite a bit. The "manifolds" they were on were quite long. I believe I have seen earlier pics of the bike with an S1 tank but it was now sporting a hand made, not very pleasing, aluminum tank. The oil tank was home made and very cool. Would have had a better time if the high of the day would have exceeded 53 and the sun showed its face. By friday the weather improved but my wedding commitments precluded any more riding. |
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Mikej
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:00 pm: |
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Hey, JMartz, sorry I missed you. I was at Hal's for awhile wondering if you were going to make it. Then I figured that family comes first and you were probably running around town with them. If those brakes are the "special" brakes they use, they get swapped from bike to bike, and might have to be returned to the "factory" at the close of each season for review and upgrades. Pricey and very unique.
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Bluzm2
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:07 pm: |
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OK Folks, I've got a question for the masses. I'm looking for anyone who is familiar with the NAVY Music Program aka the Navy Band. I'm trying to find someone who is currently in the program or has semi recently been a member. My son has enlisted in the Navy, he plans on doing the music audition but is undecided if that's really where he wants to hang his hat for four years. His alternate is submarine computer technician. I'm not sure if he could have picked two more different positions...... Any contacts would be much appreciated. He wants to talk to someone outside of the recruiters circle of contacts. Thanks much everyone. Brad |
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Jmartz
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:08 pm: |
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Hey Mike, catch you next time. I emailed you prior to leaving but not get a response. I'll be there in Sept. to take my son back to Brookfield East and participate in the 100th. jose |
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Mikej
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:15 pm: |
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Brad, If you can sort through the clutter you may try www.guitarists.net or www.guitar.com for leads on where else to post your question. Those are guitar sites that I've been haunting lately trying to learn a few things. Probably no direct help, but might lead to a lead. Jose, I was having major computer problems that week so email access was severly limited. Probably see you in late August then. BattleTrax in Waukesha on August 29th and 30th according to my last understanding. And S&S is still out in TimBuckToo Viola. |
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Mikej
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 01:51 pm: |
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Brad, You've probably already found this site, but just in case you didn't then here you go. But then you're probably looking for more live info. Oh well, had a moment to wander so I did. http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/navyjobs/navyjobs2/blmu.htm
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Cowtown
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 02:53 pm: |
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Installed a D&D Full Exhaust System on my 2001 X1. There is very little clearance between the rear header pipe and the frame. Apparently in some riding conditions the pipe is rubbing the frame. Can't seem to adjust it to create more clearance. Has anyone had the same problem. And yes this is a double post. Only received 1 response (thanks Hootowl) from the 1st post and hoping for more before I talk to David Rash at D&D. |
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Bigj
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 04:10 pm: |
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BluzM2: Gimme a call. (916)826-3710 |
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Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 04:44 pm: |
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Cow, Not likely that many Buellers are running the full system, hence the lone reply. Your best bet is to call D&D. It sounds pretty obvious that you have a problem that they will need to rectify. |
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Bigj
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 08:20 pm: |
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Blake and Dyna are really the same person. |
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Josh_
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 09:24 pm: |
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I was going to put this in the KV, but can't find a way to create a new topic. While my 99 S3T service manual does instruct me to remove my carb, it doesn't seem to list torque values for: top motor mount (into head) or exhaust stud. Anyone know? |
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Mikeyp
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 09:49 pm: |
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Big J stop stirring the pot.. --------------------------------------- Hey, i just learned some new math today. Seriously, want to know how to make a good profit selling your Buell? Piece it out. Seems Big Hairy Ralph's making more money parting out his bike piece by piece, instead of whole. (I'll carry the legacy of your bike with me everytime i use the turnsignals, Ralph..) ------------------------------------------- OK, to bring up another question that i really havn't gotten an answer to. It's pretty simple. How much would it cost me to build the exact bike Aaron built. Granted, i ain't got the poltical pull, and influence of AW to get all sorts of free stuff to use, so i'd expect to pay full boat. So indulge me? What's it take (read, cost) to become a world record holder with a Buell? |
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Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:48 pm: |
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Mike, New parts are expensive. Unless it's some kind of classic, I don't think there's a bike made that you cannot piece out for more than you can sell it outright. It is a bit of work to do so though. Most people are not willing to bother with the disassembly and the selling/shipping hassles. Ralph has a real knack for it. Aaron bought an S3 with the 100" engine already in it for $9K. The Nitrous system is probably another $1,500? Not bad eh? If you had to buy the bodywork, maybe that's another $1K? If you had to start with a stock bike, you could pick one up for $5K sell the existing engine and tranny for $2K, and buy a brand new built 100" racing engine for $10K maybe less? Add the nitrous and the fairing, you are at around $15K. But hey, I'm just guessing. The real investment is in the time and experience required to prepare and tune the bike. |
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Mikeyp
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:33 pm: |
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Hell yeah Blake, not bad at all. I thought at least $25k. But all the hard work that Aaron and company put into the effort make that bike priceless. Hear me out... If Buells were more "attractive" to the buying public, there would be no reason to part them out to make a profit. I see 10 year old GSXR's in the same price range as a two year old Buell. Not bashing, just thinking out loud. |
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Ralph
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:38 pm: |
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I wish I didn't need the knack I'm not doing it to make money, just NEED money and couldn't find a buyer. I think the part I find the most disturbing is that in a few years people are going to be looking for Buells, S1s in particular, and not be able to find them. So many have been disassembled and turn into spare parts and "choppers" (gag) I think that a fair percentage have disappeard. My hope is that I'll be able to pick up another this winter during the value slump when somebody needs some quick cash (I'm assuming that I'll have the cash part of the equation). At this point I've sent my 88" bike to New Zealand, my "spare" 80" motor to Pennsylvania. The S1 that's coming apart now mostly went to South Africa. At least the parts are going to resurrect an S3. sigh bighairyralph |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 04:09 am: |
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Mike, I think you are comparing opposite extremes (highest import versus lowest Buell used prices). We could probably find similarly transposed examples. You are right though, the selling price for a used Buell is surprisingly low. Some dealers are selling brand new '03 XB9's for under $8K. Why pay more than $5K for a two year old used X1? All the squids want the same Jap repliracers they see on the magazine covers and between the legs of their favorite road racer. They can't afford a new one, but they'll pay whatever they can afford for a used one. Buells attract a completely different market, mostly guys and gals who want something different and have the bucks to pay for it, new, off the showroom floor. Not many people out there are looking to buy used Buells. So you are right, the selling prices for used Buells are really low. And yet the new ones sell. Me, I'd prefer my beat up old Cyclone over any other bike out there. I think Ducati's suffer a similar fate on the used market.
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Dynarider
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 04:46 am: |
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Blake and Dyna are really the same person. Nah ahh, we are actually twins but Im better looking![:D](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/biggrin2.gif) |
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Buelliedan
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:01 am: |
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Cowtown, I have the full race D&D on my X1. I have not had any clearance problems however. Are you using the factory Z bracket? Let me know how I might be able to help. chevydan1@hotmail.com |
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Buelliedan
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:07 am: |
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Brad, Unless your son is of a college level music major it will be almost impossible for him to be good enough to be in the Navy Band. He might make it into a lesser base band but not the big show. And they have a bad habit of making those guys go out to see on the ships and being a Bosan mate just like everybody else. He needs to be very careful and search all his options(Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines) They are very different in what they do and do not offer. I was a recruiter for 3 years so I know most of the programs and what recruiters "really mean". |
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Aaron
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:25 am: |
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Mike: - figure $4k for an old S2 - it'd probably take $12K or so to replicate that motor, counting clutch and transmission, hiring out the porting and machine work and other specialized things and doing the assembly yourself and paying retail for the pieces. There's a lot of knw-how involved, the key there is to hook up with a good motor guy like Wes who's interested in the project and willing to help. - the nitrous stuff ran close to $2K new, I bought it used for around $750. - the bodywork is worth $2K (hard to find though, simpler and cheaper to go the Airtech route) - figure $1k in misc stuff ... everything from the tether switch to the pipe needed to make the exhaust system to a selection of sprockets. - you can probably recover $2.5K or so from selling bits of the S2 you didn't need. |
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Ebear
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 10:25 am: |
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Just posted to Roadracingworld News......AMA Pro-Racing is now Saying Buells Will probably be included in FORMULA EXTREME for 2004 season in Pro Thunder Trim....Straight from Vanderslice.....If this happens Ill renew my AMA membership!!!!!NOW is the time to e-mail Pro-Racing to support this!!!(Sorry Blake but I thought this deserved front page exposure!) } |
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Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:06 am: |
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... probably ... Time will tell. ![;)](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/winker.gif) |
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Loki
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:26 am: |
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Not to change the subject but, Any NASCAR fiends out there in the BUELLdom? As of the '04 season RJR is gone and NEXTEL is in.
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Jim_sb
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:41 am: |
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quote:Buells attract a completely different market, mostly guys and gals who want something different and have the bucks to pay for it, new, off the showroom floor. Not many people out there are looking to buy used Buells.
I don't disagree. But part of that has to do with the perception out there in the marketplace that Buells are unreliable, overweight, slow, etc. Let's face it, many combined HD/Buell dealerships weren't helping the Buell image either. Plus the cycle magazines, who seem primarily interested in who's bike is the fastest on the track haven't helped much either. I heard all that nonsense before I bought my used S2 which has been the best bike I have ever owned. I chose to rely on the advice of a very close friend who knew a lot more about Buells than I. I'm glad I did. I've put about 11k on my S2 and the bike has been flawless and fun. Works for me. The fact that it's unique is just icing on the cake. |
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Stevedplumber
| Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:32 pm: |
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Any NASCAR fiends out there in the BUELLdom? As of the '04 season RJR is gone and NEXTEL is in. Loki- you got a NASCAR friend right here. Any idea what they (NASCAR) are going to call "The Cup" next year? ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dunno.gif) |
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