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Skully
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've received several requests for engine case covers. Before I invest a substantial amount of time and potentially money, I would like to get an idea of what it is that the collective wants in terms of appearance and price.

Please let this thread be a forum where those interested in this product can give me well thought out suggestions. Like the 1125 EcoSlider/Lift Spools, you are in the driver's seat here.

Once again, thanks in advance. It will be interesting to see where this leads.

Sincerely,
Keith
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am interested. I think cost will be the big factor, I was looking at getting the Taylor Racing ones, but being made of carbon fiber they are expensive and cost almost as much as a new clutch cover.
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Mhpalin
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am interested to if they can be had for a decent cost thanks Mike
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Avc8130
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keith,
What kind of machines do you have access to for production?

It appears to me that something stamped would be the easiest approach.
ac
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Freight_dog
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are we talking billet aluminum pieces like the Yoshimura Suzuki case protectors? You could put some sweet "DHM" logos on those. I have no idea what the Yosh bits cost, but they look....

Better yet, your trademark "polish and black anodize" finish would be stunning.

The Yosh bits are $195 for the pair. Cheaper than Woodcraft replacement covers or Taylormade's carbon pieces.

(Message edited by freight_dog on February 15, 2010)

(Message edited by freight_dog on February 15, 2010)
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i like what woodcraft has done. i think that taylormade pucks will get the sales if their prices are substantially lower.
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Mrvdub
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be interested
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interest
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Mac_inger
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy crap,..i was just about to send Keith an email about this and when i refresh BadWeb, this comes up.
Yes very interested.

Sent the link to the Rizomas, but here they are again. Bottom of the page.

http://www.rizoma.com/Prodotti/ProdottiSport.cfm?I D_categoria=78&firstLevelIndex=4&IDSez=2
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a multi-function bellypan.

1. keeping leaking fluids in control.

2. bracketry that is so stout it could be classified as an engine guard

A great way to cover up two uglies the exhaust and the engine guard.

dannybuell


(Message edited by dannybuell on February 15, 2010)
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Rex
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belly pan would be cool.

the puck that fits on the motor clutch side.

some sort of guard that hits before hitting the motor...
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Rex
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Duggram
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

the puck that fits on the motor clutch side.




You mean like the ones that Grandstand Designs currently sells? I just put mine on last weekend. Aluminum buttons. Very nice, but maybe not the same as case covers. Also, I have Flexiglass side panels that I have reinforced at the covers (about the same cost as Taylormades).
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Captain_america
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both the case savers Mac_Inger pointed to on rizoma and the belly pan Dannybuell described would be awesome...

The rizoma pieces are like an exoskeleton for your motor
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be interested.
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just a thought;
the additional mass of this item would have a negligble effect due to it's placement on the bike: basically at center of gravity.
i'm saying this cuz i have the powers stunt works cage and it's mass is definetly noticeable due to it's de-centralization of mass... and it also weighs like 50 lbs.
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Crazyhawk99
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 04:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 for case protectors similar to Taylormade or Woordcraft. Price will obviously be the challenge.
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Spaceman
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in for stuff to protect engine cases. Frame sliders/protection would be nice too.
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Kaotikevo
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be interested in the case type, not liking the aluminum button style.
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Duggram
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW Keith, I would buy your case covers too. With Pete's buttons, some case covers and my side panels I would be doing everything possible to prevent engine damage on my racer. Thank you for posting.
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be in for a set.


Aluminum case savers that protect in a slide.
Something like this:
http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/ps-3582-1484-yoshimura -case-saver-kit-gsx-r-600750.aspx
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Poppinsexz
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw someone had homemade a case guard from an Al cooking pot. It was ugly but I liked the Idea.

How hard would it be to press/mold/form a piece of Al as a clutch cover like the fancy 350+ carbon fiber jobbers.

I believe it could be done cheaply, and I for one would be in for it.
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A_s_r
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I contacted Keith a few weeks ago about some DHM case savers, I was thinking that injection molded covers made from glass filled nylon would be a good option. But that would involve substantial upfront cost to Keith for the injection mold tooling.

I really like the looks of the Yoshimura machined aluminum covers. I would totally be in for a set like that, especially if the price point was in the $200 range.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nillaice;

exactly something in the direction of a lower 'cage' but with a skin.

dannybuell
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Budgolf
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in.
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Timtowtdi
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll buy some too depending on what they turn out like and final cost.
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1203_raptor
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 FOR THE MACHINED YOSHI UNITS.
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Poppinsexz
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really think a major factor is cost.
There are several really good units out there but the cost is through the roof.

When one looks at the replacement cost of a clutch case vs a 300+ dollar cover. I think a lot are like me where I'll take my chances.

However I have DH sliders front, rear and bar ends. Why, because the cost of repair was way over the cost of protection.

Sure some will buy the high rent pieces but I think the manufacture has limited their market.
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Hdwrenchtx
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

as time goes on the parts needed to repair a damaged engine case will be harder to come by... already it seems needed parts are on permanent backorder like instrument clusters

just get some kind of protection on there.


for the moment anyway I have 2 1125's so I can always ride one if the other is down waiting on parts... I kind of looked at the sales like a buy 1 get 1 free instead of get one at half price
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Dtx
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be interested. Especially for the left side. The stator side seems a little more vulnerable then the clutch cover side.
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