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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that hotmale.com or hotmail.com?
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ail... just mispelling it to keep botz from flooding my email box.
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figured, since there is no hotmale registered. I sent you 15 bones, but forgot to include my id and email.

How about riding it around a little with the stock exhaust and race ecm. I want to know how the throttle response feels and how well it cruises.



(Message edited by moosestang on February 09, 2010)
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you once again for the donation.

we now have 55.00
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am going to sent over $10. Hope to see the AFRs. Would be interesting on the race-ecm and stock pipe comno. Thanks much.
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Aeholton
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pitched in toward the cause.
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok here will be the runs i do......

Since i have faith the last few bucks will come in.

1. Stock filter, stock exhaust, EBR ECM
2. K&N, Stock exhaust, EBR ECM
3. HMF pipe, Stock filter, stock computer
4. HMF, K&N, Stock computer
5. HMF, Stock filter, EBR ECM
6. HMF, K&N, EBR ECM.

I will TRY to control the temps of the engine as i know a hot engine will give less numbers, but the shop still has say in how much dyno time i get vs costs..
I'll try to get 5 min cool down betweens runs with the dyno fans on and engine running... that will help even out the variables. We will have a WIDEBAND O2 in the front header.

I will provide dyno sheets with baseline and each of the mods... thats all.. no other comparisons. sorry the combination of dyno charting is just too much IMO.. Those who donated though, please email now with what you want to see (if its different from above) and i will arrange any dyno sheet you want and email them to you direct.

Testing should commense tomorrow afternoon... and continue till i'm done
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK Gents we have the magic number.......
Well minus a few bucks for paypal lol..

If anyone else would like to contribute it would be appreciated, i just needed this initial money to lock in the dyno session..
appointments have been made, now just waiting on UPS and weather..

THANKS AGAIN to those who donated and for everyone else ... you should thank them also...
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you going to do all runs the same day? I honestly don't know how hard it is to remove the exhaust, but I know the ecm is easy to swap.
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T_man
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sincerely; THANK YOU! Banger and everyone else who contributed to this endevour.

Objective data is hard to come by (especially 'round here!) and this project is nothing but the good stuff! Well done.
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope over the course of 2 days... all stock exhaust stuff one day, go home swap things out and then return the next day and make the runs with HMF pipe.

REMEMBER GUYS. IF my bike made say 138.20947376493287whp it does not mean yours will be any where close.

Also keep in mind the dyno is at 1700 ft elevation, so my buddies in Houston might show a bit more power and guys in CO will show less. the correction factor on dynos is not exact.

What this dyno will show is that given my baseline, i will make X amount of power above/below stock and that expected gains should be AROUND these numbers.

Every bike is different. The big thing here is too see how the RACE ECM will handle subtle changes like K&N only or slipon only, both, or stock everything for those who just feel you need to waste money on a ECM : p

These will be as accurate as number as i can replicate. Each test gets one run... A/F monitered and then on to the next thing.

Also i will state this now,

DISCLAIMER..........

If you are one of those poeple that feels that my test methods were not accurate enough, or you feel the need to bash me on a forum becuase your dog screwed your wife that morning ...SAVE IT... i have done tests like this before, i'm no newby. i will gladly accept constructive critisism, but if you bring a up a problem , you best also have a theory to some kind of solution.

Twice before i gave up my time and money to do testing on products for my 4 pot turbo stang, and twice some arogant smartass felt the need to attack the methods in which i did the tests... since then i still do tests for various products but not one word of it ever goes back to the community..

If you feel my method of testing is inaccurate, by all means keep your thoughts to yourself and spend your own money on testing in a fashion of your choosing..
END DISCLAIMER

Well the weather is clearing up a bit, so I MIGHT be able to get some work done today, thats if the UPS man gets here early enough.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you plan to run with the airbox on, I hope?
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OH yea the inner airbox will be installed on all runs. the baseline was done like this, so why completely screw up the testing by changing that variable...i'm sure they would be a noticable difference

thanks for reminding me..

though i may run it without the cover, once, for my own curiousity HE HE HE....thats on my dime. LOL.

(Message edited by justa4banger on February 09, 2010)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

though i may run it without the cover, once, for my own curiousity HE HE HE....thats on my dime. LOL.

I am sure you will have interested parties on that one too. that would be sweet.
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Ottobotz
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

J-BANGER-
Can't wait to see the results-really.

Just out of curiosity why the I-40 and not I-10? If you decide to come down 10 stop in Tucson and we'll have a beer, on me. On the reals, no hard feelings.
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I-40 because if i go that way through Amarillo its about 19 hours to get home.... if i go I-10 its 22 hours to austin and then another 4.5 hours to dallas. PLUS I-10 SUCKS BALLS..
they should have rollers on the guard rails, so you can just set the cruise at warp speed and ping pong down the freeway... that has to be one of the worst stretches of hwy in the US.. (even at the posted 80 mph limit)

Thanks for the offer on the beer. You can have one for me once i get all the results back...

Well i'm still waiting on my UPS truck.. they said no later than 7 pm for delievery, well i know its 7pm somewhere in the world, WhereTF is my goodies UPS MAN!!!!
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have your IP address should you try and skip town... ; )
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I've changed my mind. I ordered a K&N filter, so I want to see stock exhaust, K&N, race ecm. No need to do a dyno run with the stock filter for my sake.
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh now you change your mind.. too late bud, your still going to get the results...the world doesn;t revolve around you buddy : D
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy... i'm hurt you would even think tha i would do such a thing.......: D
here's my number to anyone who wants to gimmie a buzz

Honestly i was surprised that there is this many trusting folks left in the world...
But i assure you i'm not in the business of stealing... besides i use this screenname for all my forums... i have nothing to hide.

Hell to anyone with doubt PM me, i'll gladly give you all my addresses... overseas and stateside.. i'll be at one of them at some point in time.. : D

Once again to those that took the leap of trust with me, thank you... i won't dissappoint.

(Message edited by justa4banger on February 16, 2010)
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WHERE IS THE UPS MAN... i see sunlight... i could get part one completed now while the weather is good... but i have to be at the shop before 5pm.... This is why I love fedex so much more...
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

UPS can be very frustrating. Thanks to everyone for supporting this man's quest for truth and horsepower: )
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well no testing today.. i can't get to the dyno shop before it closes and the freaking UPS man...... he still ain't here...Oh well tomorrow afternoon will be the soonest
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Justa..thanks very much for doing all of this for the rest of us, I for one am VERY grateful
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plan on keeping my bike stock this year, but i'm interested i your dyno numbers!

Keep up the good work Kevin!
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Justa4banger
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ALRIGHTY!!!!!!!!!

well i got my stuff, though the UPS man almost left without giving me my EBR ECM...he had to go back and look for it.

SO tomorrow the fun begins.. hopefully the results are what all expect.. if anything there will be questions answered.

Wish me luck.
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Justa4banger
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Off to the dyno, if i get lucky i'll get everything done today... you guys are going to like the info...i hope wish me luck
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YeeeeeeeeeHah
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Aeholton
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Feel like one of Pavlov's dogs (drooling with anticipation).
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pavlov?. . . Pavlov? . . .that name rings a bell.
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