| Author | Message | ||
     Illbuell |
What ya running? | ||
| Froggy |
Amsoil Motorcycle Synth 20w50 in the summer, and whatever motorcycle spec synth 10w-40 I can find in the winter. | ||
| Ron_luning |
Mobil 1 20w50 motorcycle oil (it's cheap at a shop near work). | ||
| 20buellteam |
Me too on the Amsoil Motorcycle Synth 20w50 | ||
| Blur |
I'm using Valvoline 10W50 (I think thats the right weight) It's a heavier conventional oil that isn't energy conserving. Once I get a few oil changes through it I plan on switching to synthetic Mobil 1 15W50 red cap. | ||
| Chiefiron |
HD Syn3 20w50 is my planned choice for my new 1125R. It worked well in my XB and love it in my FLHX. Any reason i shouldnt use it in my new bike? | ||
| Tbones1125r |
Running Syn3 also...I put Red Line 20w50 in the City X. | ||
| Hogzilla |
Syn 3 20w50. Have used it in my bikes for a while now with no problem. Amsoil is very good as well. | ||
| Ohbuellman |
Amsoil Motorcycle Synth 20w50. | ||
| Family_buells |
I'll probably wind up using Shell Rotella Synthetic 10W40. It worked great in my SV650 racebike. It doesn't have any energy conserving crap to mess with the wet clutch and I can usually get it for $19.00 a gallon (Message edited by family_buells on January 29, 2010) | ||
| Metalrabbit |
Amsoil 20/50 "blue cap" | ||
| Captain_america |
AMSOIL 20/50 | ||
| Hdwrenchtx |
syn3 because it is free | ||
| Hildstrom |
AMSOIL MCV 20W-50 spring,summer,fall 1125R AMSOIL MCF 10W-40 if I planned on riding the 1125R below 40 Castrol Syntec 10W-40 all seasons FZR600 HD Syn3 is pretty good stuff according to published testing. There are some good articles and papers linked in this post. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=290431&post=1664834#POST1664834 | ||
| Pariah |
I going to run Silkolene Pro 4 Plus, 10W-50 next... it's JASO MA2, unlike the Redline 20W-50 I'm currently running (JASO-MB), but, surprisingly, the Redline has not affected clutch operation at all. In fact, I would say the Redline gives better clutch feel than I had with HD Syn 3. Besides, why help out HD? (Message edited by pariah on January 29, 2010) | ||
| 99buellx1 |
I'm thinking of running the Amsoil 10w-30 in my race bike. Thoughts? | ||
| Peter_nikols |
I use Amsoil on all my bikes. I've been using MCV 20W50 on my Sportster, V-Rod and my S1 when I rode it. I have used Mobile 1 V-Twin which I also find really good. I used HD Syn3 a couple times. It's ok but not great. I always wanted to try Royal Purple but nobody sells it around here. I find the synthetics much better. I typically only change the one oil once per season on each bike, so I want good oil. But I'm told if you change the oil really frequently you could get away with a much cheaper oil. I have a friend who has been using Castrol GTX car oil in his bike since he bought it in 1985. He has 150,000 miles on it. He changes oil very frequently and never had a problem. In any case I'm sticking to Amsoil 20w50 for the 1125R. | ||
| Hogzilla |
"Besides, why help out HD? " Because those of us with warrantees will be screwed if they go down in flames. Not to mention good luck getting parts. | ||
| Puredrive |
FAWK HD oil!!! | ||
| 2009cr |
Mobil 1 20W-50 in the 1125CR and Mobil 1 20W-50 in the engine, 10W-40 in the primary, and 75W-90 in the tranny of the Road King. | ||
| Hildstrom |
FAWK HD oil!!! Why? HD Syn3 placed 4th out of 17 SAE 50 oils tested in AMSOIL's study of motorcycle oils. They did not test every SAE 50 motorcycle oil on the planet, but 4/17 seems pretty good to me considering the oils they did test. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Besides, why help out HD? Don't forget- you're also helping out Hugo Chávez, the nationalist-socialist megalomaniac president of Venezuela. H-D branded oil is made by Citgo, which is actually Petróleos de Venezuela- the state owned national oil company. The most recent disturbing, anti-american statement from Chávez is that he believes the earthquake in Haiti was the result of the US military testing a new "tectonic weapon" that we are going to use on Iran. I'm at a loss as to why H-D, or any other company, would choose to do business with this nut. All I can say is my money won't go to help support the government of a maniac- especially considering I would paying more and getting less based on H-D pricing and the quality of the oil. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
HD Syn3 placed 4th out of 17 SAE 50 oils tested in AMSOIL's study of motorcycle oils. Absolutely true. But there's more to it than that- SYN3 did rank fourth, but it also more than doubled the winning oil's score (low number=good). It performed admirably considering it's a semi-synthetic (80% mineral, 20% synthetic additive package), but priced at $9.95 a quart compared to the winning oil being 100% fully synthetic and costing $10.70 a quart- it leaves you wondering what you're paying for. See the results here: http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf | ||
| Moosestang |
Fawk Chavez! I use mobil 1 vtwin 20w50. I won't buy gas from a citgo, but I'm sure that is pointless. | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
Now is syn3 a blend or a semi synthetic because they are NOT the same thing. full synthetic means the manufacture starts with something that is not oil at all ie. natural gas, butane, propane, or a combination of different hydro carbons and use extreme heat and pressure to break the molecules apart and realign the elements in it to become motor oil semi synthetic is close to the same process they just start with the heavier and lighter byproducts of refining oil and do the same process making oil so as long as the standards are the same there is virtually no difference in the end product of semi synthetic or full synthetic a blended oil is a mix of regular dino oil and a synthetic or semi synthetic | ||
| Hogzilla |
The way I look at it, companies are so intertwined these days the only one you're sticking it too is yourself for creating an inconvenience. I can get Syn 3 for $8 at the local dealer and if I wanted something else, I'd have to go well out of my way and pay more. I agree on Chavez, but it's not worth it to go out of my way to make a statement that no one will even notice. Just my $.02 | ||
| Peter_nikols |
Well technically any non-synthetic motor oil is probably made from foreign sources of oil. Your best hope is that it comes from Canada which you can hardly call a foreign country. | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
its not the worlds fault that the states have basicly no oil reserve and has to import the majority of the oil it uses | ||
| Nm5150 |
Actually I have a friend that maps oil fields for a living and there is oil that he mapped back in 1984 that has still not been extrascted.We have enough oil to run this country for about 100 years but they won't extract it.I was told it was for strategic reasons so we will still have oil when other sorces run out.He even got hired to map a field that when he got to looking he had already mapped it about ten years ago.He found the old paper work,changed the dates and other info and turned it in to the company.Now I figure he carries his money to the bank in a wheelbarrow  | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Actually, motor oil is composed of one or more base oils which are categorized into Groups I through V. Group I is the most "crude" of the bases (various hydrocarbon chains with no uniformity) that is derived using a solvent freezing method. Group II base oils are the result of hydroprocessing refinement and are found in most mineral motor oils. Group III base oils are the result of intensive hydroprocessing and are higher quality than Group I or II base oils. It is the Group III base oils that have been "allowed" to be labeled "synthetic" due to the amount of refining and synthetic additives- but they are not chemically synthesized oils. Group IV base oils are engineered from chemicals in the laboratory and truly are "synthesized" oils. Polyalphaolefin (PAO) is a synthetic base stock oil that is made in a lab and therefore should be labeled a 100% fully synthetic oil. Group V synthetics are actually chemical additives designed to improve base stock oil performance and are generally comprised of esters and ployolesters. Although Group V base oils are considered "base oils", they are used as a basis for additives- not as a base oil themselves. The synthetic/semi-synthetic pot got stirred back in 1997 when Castrol changed the base stock of its Syntec "full synthetic" from polyalphaolefin (PAO) to a "hydroisomerized" petroleum base stock, but still marketed the oil as "synthetic". Mobil took issue with this and complained, but the SAE considered the amount of work involved "hydroisomerizing" the petroleum base oil that Castrol could use the term "synthetic". Seeing as a true synthetic is engineered chemically and not a refined mineral oil- many have a problem with the SAE's stance. It is now common practice for any oil with as little as 20% synthetic ingredients (usually the Group V additives) mixed with as much as 80% Group III mineral oil base stock to be labeled as a synthetic. I don't think it's right, but that's the way it is. Because of this decision, what used to be labeled semi-synthetic (Group III base with synthetic additives- also called synthetic blends) can now be labeled synthetic- which creates some confusion. If a manufacturer is upfront about their oil's formulation it's almost a non-issue, but when they're less than honest it makes you wonder why. Truth is, it's cheaper to use a "hydrisomerized" mineral oil as a base than to use a synthetic base oil- so if you can make it cheaper and sell it as a pricier synthetic you make more money. The resulting "synthetic" (actually a semi-syn) is better than mineral oil, but it does not perform as well as a real, 100% fully synthetic oil. SYN3 is a prime example of this: it's a semi-syn labeled as a synthetic, and it doesn't perform as well as a 100% fully synthetic oil that has earned the right to be labeled as synthetic- and it costs more than it should. If there was more honesty involved, the issue would be moot- if it ain't 100% fully synthetic it should not be labeled synthetic, anything containing mineral base oil is semi-synthetic. Simple, isn't it? |
