| Author | Message | ||
     Seeeu911 |
Does anyone know if the Buell Left Front Caliper for the inverted fork tubers is avail ? if so from who etc.. thanks ! | ||
| Blake |
Don check out ASB's dual front disk brake kit.  Give Tat a call. I think the kit includes a complete left and complete right side brake system, possibly even a new master cylinder. But get in touch with Tat or Maria to check for sure. It ain't cheap. Also check with Dave at Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center), they carry Trojan Horse stuff and I think Trojan Horse has/had a dual disk kit as well. | ||
| Seeeu911 |
Thanks Blake..yikees..way too much dinero. I'm planning a design on a really radical frame up Buell and looking for a all Buell dual disk front set up. Wondering if it is possible. I read somewhere that Buell actually made a left front caliper for a short while. | ||
| Blake |
Welcome. yeah, pricey ain't it. You might calll Henry Duga at Buell Racing, maybe he can help. I think you are right about the Buell left side parts being available at one time. If Henry cannot help you, call Cap; he said that there is a way to mount another 340mm rotor and adapt a caliper from another bike, but it would take some work. I'm sure you'd be able to handle it. | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
I've been taking a casual look at this on and off for a while. I have an M2, so have the "right way up" Showa forks. The Left side calipers I've seen so far on other bikes have a closer centre distance between the two mounting bolts, there must be one out there though that fits? One bit of info I got, was a pdf file Brembo catalogue, if you want a copy (1.02Mb) I'll mail it to you. I can tell you that none of the Brembo calipers will fit without an adapter plate. Over here, AP Racing or PFM twin disk conversions are around the 1100 to 1200 UK Pounds-ish. Nice though. On another slight diversion, with brake rotors costing about 175 UK Pounds for (say) a EBC rotor, it might be worth making them? OK, I know brake disks are a safety item, but you don't have to be a brain surgeon to turn some Grade 30 nodular iron. | ||
| Seeeu911 |
Thanks Blake ! Steve, yes please send to donng@aol.com I think you are on to something there. | ||
| Blake |
Steve, Methinks there is a lot more to a brake disk than simply turning a piece of plate into a flat disk. It also needs to stay flat. You know, stress relief and heat treating and all that. Peter looked into fabbing a SS disk for his beemer at one point. Not sure if he actually tried it or not. | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
Hi Blake, ofcourse, you're right. But it isn't brain surgery. More like High School Technology class level. I've got a disk here to use as a pattern, if I get a good price I might just give it a shot. The lathe I have access to won't quite swing that diameter. If you assume that the ultimate disk temp will not be more than (say) 50 Deg C more than the boiling point of the fluid (DOT 4 ~ 230 Deg C), then a little pre-final cut stress relief should be all that's req'd. edited by steveshakeshaft on June 05, 2003 | ||
| Rick_a |
There's a couple websites I've found selling Nissin calipers...in that case left sides for Buells are available. If you're looking for a left Buell/PM caliper you're SOL. | ||
| Locutus |
Rick_a could you post the links to those sites? Have you found out for sure that they have calipers that fit Buells? | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
Locutus, I've failed to locate a LH Nissin caliper with the correct bolt mount centres, same story for Brembo, and PM told me they are not making Buell calipers any more. I have a '97 M2. I HAVE seen aftermarket kits based on both Brembo and NISSIN calipers, where they get them from I don't know. HTH. Steve steve_s@ukbeg.com www.ukbeg.com | ||
| Funjimmy |
Yoyodyne sells Brembo dual disc upgrade kits for Buells at the reasonable price of $1250.00. Everything you will need, master cylinder, two Brembo Goldline calipers, Brembo stainless rotors, braided hoses, etc. Reasonable considering American Sportbike sells the same kit for $1950.00 Search google for Yoyodyne to find web page. | ||
| S3dave |
Anybody have any luck putting a left side Nissin caliper on??? And where can i find one if you did?? or even if you didn't put one on... | ||
| Henrik |
S3; as far as I've been able to research no such animal exists. Sorry. You will need to get a kit containing at least a set of calipers and custom brackets - such as FunJimmy describes above. Henrik | ||
| S3dave |
Thanks Henrik, I should check out what Deely's did to get dual discs on their race bike, they used Nissin calipers with an adapter bracket..I guess I can give them a call. I was really hoping to just use a caliper without an adapter but hey.. | ||
| S3thunder |
I want to know about replacement for the right side rotor. Dealer upgrade to the '00 model or go aftermarket such as EBC? I know I am in a left side thread but don't see any other front caliper post. Perhaps you can suggest a fix for my '98 S3 with a loosening rotor to carrier problem.? Thanks | ||
| Henrik |
The Buell rotor is a nice, inexpensive replacement. You can get more "bling" in the aftermarket, but it'll cost ya'  Have fun getting the bolts out ...  Been there, done that. Henrik | ||
| Udholmdk |
just a little comment. I just got a dual disc kit from Braketech. 2 rotors , supercool black color. 2 Brembo calibers in gold( the new ones ) Nissin master cyl Braided hoses and adapter brackets from Braketech. Super service from jeff, got a T shirt for free. Nice products 1200$ total | ||
| S3thunder |
Just a follow-up on the installation of the '00 upgrade on the front rotor. Yes, Henrik you were right but I almost got away with an easy fix. The first four bolts came away with a 3/16 hex socket on a 1/2" breaker bar. Unfortunately the bit started to twist on the fourth bolt and I unwisely went for the fifth anyway. The result was a broken bit that I couldn't drill (very hard steel)out. So I resorted to drilling holes around it to see if I could pry it out. I abandoned that and used a punch and hammer to slowly unscrew the bolt one tiny bit at a time til I got it up far enough to get a pair of locking pliers on it. After that the rest was a snap. The new rotor fit perfect and while I had the wheel off, I put new bearings in it too. A final bit of polishing and installation and the job was done 24 hours after I started. Finally off on a test ride to smell the grass and flowers and cows. All was excellent until the last half mile coming home when the handling went sour. I nursed it home and found a large chunk of road trash poking out of a nearly new rear D220. Now I am back up on the stand with the rear tire out, waiting for parts.    | ||
| Bomber |
damn new rotors! ;-} | ||
| Henrik |
S3T; congratulations on a successful rotor removal  I "spent" 3 allen bits, heating, hammering, impact driving - and finally had to resort to having nuts welded to 4 out of 5 bolts.  Henrik | ||
| Al_lighton |
My experiences were just like Henrik's, except I had to do 5 out of 5. On another note, American Sport Bike will have the less spendy Brembo dual caliper set up very soon, working out the supplier issues now. $1200 is a great price, certainly much better than the $1927 we currently sell for (different supplier). Jan, did yours come with 45 or 65 mm bolt space calipers (i.e. the distance between the the two bolts that hold the caliper to the adapter bracket)? | ||
| Sleez  |
everyone: if you install a dual setup on a 97 or 98, what do you do with the speedo? can the electronic speedo as the newer ones be adapted? | ||
| Firemanjim  |
Lee,I have a dual disc(ISR,thanks, Cap) set-up on my S-2 and the cable for speedo goes in--very minor grinding on inner edge of rotor. Every bike I have seen with the L/S Nissin on it had an adapter plate.The PM ones bolted right up.I still have that set-up in the wrapping with a PM part # on it.I would almost bet they still have that one around as they make a bunch of 6 piston calipers,but don't tell you specs. Might just be easier to grab a set of calipers off a GSXR or what and make your own adapters. | ||
| Kdkerr2  |
I've just returned from my garage where I inspected my spare X1 wheel. It's got those damned flat head screws also which are a bitch to remove after they've been in several years. Best to put never seize on all screws when reinstalling. Anyhow, back to subject: You can install a second stock rotor on the left side of the Buell wheel. It was designed for this. However the rotor has a directional center and water grooves cut in the rotor itself. So if you use a stock rotor on the left it's going to be ••• backwards. As for the caliper, good luck. I had to make adapter brackets when I mounted my 00+ H-D four piston calipers on my 87 FXR. You can usually pick up dual 6 piston Haybusa Tokico calipers on EBay fairly cheap }but then you would need two custom adaptor brackets. But they are both the same. As for the speedometer drive don't worry about it as long as the cable clears the rotor and the caliper. It's just like the one on my FXR. Later KK | ||
| Aaomy  |
the rotor can still run the correct direction but the carrier will be facing the wrong direction. and about removing those stuck flathead screws try purchasing "screw and socket gripper".. a permatex product comes in a small tube and is available at most auto parts stores with the gasket makers and thread lockers..from what i can tell it looks like carbide grit in a liquid paste form, a little of it on the tool really helps grip,, will greatly increase your torque capability before stripping the head.. also prevent phillips form stripping out too. good stuff.. maybe next week i will play and post some # about actual increased torque with the product if you guys are interested? im kinda curious myself. i know the stuff works but dont have numbers yet to prove it. let me know if you guys want? | ||
| Firemanjim |
Last time I had that problem with my rotor bolts I took the wheel to the dealer to remove the 2 bolts I was unable to budge.The Buell mech took out his brass drift and whacked each bolt head a couple of good ones--and then proceeded to easily unscrew both of them with no drama at all.I have used this method several times since successfully. | ||
| Henrik  |
Aaomy; that would be very useful information. I've had lots of fun with those rotor bolts myself... Henrik | ||
| Kdkerr2 |
I'd totally forgotten about this method. It's been over 10 years. The rotor bolts on the rear of my Harley FXR are countersunk 5/16 units just like on the front tuber Buells. Had the same problem. I believe I'd done stripped out one socket and another older toolmaker came by and smacked the rest of my screws with a wide steel punch. Then the rest were easy to get off. As a result of this I don't use stock style brake rotors on the rear any more. I use a front rotor with the holes relieved so I can run regular not countersunk 3/8" socket head cap screws. KK | ||
| Bomber  |
while I've not got numbers (Henrick's right, Aaomy, that's be aces!), valve grinding compound also works to ehlp grip stubborn fasteners |
