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Matchanu
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I purchased the CA vapor canister from another member here, got it yesterday and put it on.

Pretty straight forward. hose to the throttle body, hose from the gas tank vapor valve.

No more gas smell in the garage, no performance loss, may even be more fuel efficient, too early to tell yet.

No idea why these aren't standard.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just be careful to not overfill your tank. The fuel will get sucked into the canister and then straight to the throttle body where it will try to kill your engine, usually right when you're leaving the gas station heading into traffic.

That happening starts the death of the canister, and soon you'll find charcoal granules puking out the vent onto the floor, and maybe into your TB. First hand experience...
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Reg_kittrelle
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe this is the first time I've ever heard of someone actually installing this canister.
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Matchanu
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xbimmer, thanks for the heads up.

Reg, the gas fumes in the garage was a no go. I didn't relish the idea of leaving it outside for an hour to cool off and vent.

But yeah, normally I tend to take stuff off I don't really need. So this is a first for me as well.
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Reg_kittrelle
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I never thought of that reason. Damned if I don't learn something new everyday. Thanx.

Here in CA, the canister is a legal requirement. I used to take them off as a standard new motorcycle ritual. Stopped doing that a few bikes back.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I believe this is the first time I've ever heard of someone actually installing this canister.




I got one I have been meaning to put on. I need 3 more for the rest of the bikes. They are awesome, and reduce harmful emissions into the atmosphere.
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Matchanu
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Because of Bimmers post, I may add a fuel filter in the vent side to catch any liquid gas from ending up in the canister. I figure any overfill splash wouldn't be a lot of fuel and should catch in the filter then evaporate off.

Easy fix if it works.
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Matchanu
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gah, still have some fuel smell in the garage, not as bad as before, but I'd rather it not be there.

Maybe the engine is running a bit hot?

I lined the inside of the frame with the heat reflective tape last week hoping that would be the cure.

Running out of ideas here.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The air vent elbow at the front of the canister will vent vapors when you shut the bike down when the tank is fullish and the bike is hot. Not as much as a drip tube but still some escapes. At least mine did, but then again mine has over 60K on it and it was going south for two years... Believe it or not (surprise) HD won't warranty emissions equipment past 18K if past the 2-year warranty, I would've added that to the list had I discovered the problem before my warranty expired. Now it serves as a fuel catch can basically.

Do you have a leak elsewhere? Fuel line connections?
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Matchanu
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, defiantly coming from the front of the canister.

I do not have the elbow connection, if that matters, just the open nipple end.

However, this was the first time I had the bike up to full op temp so perhaps the canister is still "breaking in"?

I'll see how it does tomorrow.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, defiantly coming from the front of the canister.

This is one of things that makes me laugh about CA's laws. The Gummint doesn't want fuel vapors to enter the atmosphere but the device requires a vent to atmosphere. Sort of like our booted gas pumps that are a pain to use on bikes, supposed to suck the vapors as you fill up back into the tank stores. Problem is when you take the nozzle off the pump you often dump raw fuel from the last user all over the ground, your tank, or your boots...

Maybe you can put a piece of hose on the nipple, loosely pack it with something filter-ish. Since there's a vacuum induced while in operation you'd need to restrict the material from being sucked into the can though. Just thinkin.
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Matchanu
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or put a one way valve on it.

I'll give the filter (on the filter) a shot.
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Brucen
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those pollution laws do work. When I first moved to Southern California in the early 70s the smog was so bad in LA that the air was brown & your eyes would burn. Today it's not nearly as bad & there are a lot more people.
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