| Author | Message | ||
     Ridenusa4l |
Blackflash, Kepp us informed!! if possible maybe your exhaust shop could make an identical system for myself and others...just thinkin...kepp us posted!! Thanx Jake | ||
| Blackflash |
Thats the plan cheaper deep sound.And strive for good looke/power throughout the band. I just gotta talk to dave and get his the hmf tune and adjust on the afv on the dyno and see where am at. | ||
| Blackflash |
I need a little help here .Does anyone remember what the issue was with the 08 to 09 header collector fitment.I think there was dimension changes from the 08 to 09 and I believe there was someone who posted the hr1 riot exhaust fitment issue. | ||
| D_adams |
08 measured 1/2" between the pipes. 09's are 3/8" I think, maybe a smidgen less. There might have been a running change on the 08's though, late in the model year. I have an April 08 build and it's 1/2" between the pipes. The remainder of my SS parts are on the way finally. 3.5"x8"x12" oval can, end caps, internal tubing, packing, clamps, hanger material, etc. This stuff is definitely fun and keeping me entertained while it's too cold to ride. | ||
| Easyrider |
Just my 2cents, In The current construction of the Buell Race Pipe, There will be NO Torque at Low RPM. Be aware of this for street use. The Pipe has the papers to make great HP at High RPM exactly what you want on a race track... | ||
| Toysgarage |
hi guys im in australia and new to these, built an exhaust myself (slip on) with a k&n filter .think it might need a tune but cant seem to find any info or avaliability on programable ecu for them down here. any help will be extremely gratefull | ||
| Littlebutquick |
speak to mr easyrider twinmotorcycles.nl   | ||
| Blackflash |
dadams thats interesting I have an april 08 build too.I took a set of dial calipers and swept the two tubes and got.618 .I believe its just shoddy fitment on these bikes.The tolerances arent there.I know I can pull the two tubes together with my hands and get 3/8" between the two tubes as well.I dint think its a year change I think its a bad jig they had. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Gotta pretty much agree with Easyrider on this one. I believe a race bike for road racing needs its power band from about 7000 rpm's to redline. In other words from coming out of a corner to pull hard down the straights depending, of course, which gear you were in. Street use really needs good power from 3000 rpm up. I love Buells race pipe but I believe its just that. Blackflash, yet another reason for hand fitting and fabricating most parts. | ||
| Arcticcr |
I've seen post on here regarding the FMF slip-on pictured here:  However, I've not seen much regarding the full system seen here:  I can't even find sound clips on youtube. I think it looks great! If the performance and sound can match the looks, I'd be interested. Does any one have any info regarding this system? Sound clip? Dyno results? Info of tuning, would think the stock tune would not be able to correct? Thanks, ~ J | ||
| Freight_dog |
That FMF full system looks good, the slip-on looks like it would drag at full lean. If they shortened the can by 3 inches and tucked it in like the race can, it might work for me. It would need an angled exit too to keep exhaust gasses away from the swingarm. I am frustrated, because I am no fabricator, but I know what I would like in an exhaust and NO ONE is making it. That FMF race can welded to the slip-on midpipe at that angle would be a good start. | ||
| Blackflash |
I was at mid ohio races in taylor knapps pit area. When they first introduced the fmf on taylor knapps bike it was there.I asked about the buell exhaust and he said they dropped it and picked up fmf.I asked the tech to fire her up .It was extremely loudand this was outside the garage.It wasnt even cool.Sure it looks great I agree but theres what 12" of perforation packing on a straight through tube.Not enough at all for the street.Thats why I chose to make a muffler that has a total of 21" perforation and packing. But I agree it does look great. Its also a shame its sounds just shy of a open header.Thats a pure race pipe.Thats why you will never see it in a slipon model. | ||
| Easyrider |
Toysgarage, Any pictures available to show, what you made would be easier for your awnser.. | ||
| Captain_america |
I think the FMF race looks the best Loud pipes save lives... | ||
| D_adams |
Freight_dog - What do you want done, specifically? 2 into 1, 2 separate, 2x2 (crossover) or something else altogether? Materials are relatively cheap, compared to what's currently available. You just need someone to do the welding/fabrication part, right? | ||
| Toysgarage |
thanks alot will do soon easyrider. excuse time frame we 16 hours different down here | ||
| Easyrider |
Toysgarage,. No problem you can also mail me at dris@twinmotorcycles.nl | ||
| Toysgarage |
Hi Guys, It's a 2" stainless dual, with x-pipe 3.5" hotdogs and 3" to clear the block.  | ||
| Easyrider |
Looks a lot like the Freespirits, only longer Mufflers, Haven't seen anything yet like that. What is the diameter of the inner tubing inside the mufflers and the lenght.. | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
I love the look of that exhaust! How much did it cost and do you have a video of it running? | ||
| Wkd14u2 |
looks great... question if left out would it fill with rain? Wkd1 | ||
| Blackflash |
Wkd1 looks good. Good job. The only improvement your design could use is the turnouts aimed downward more and the x factor in your pipe is more used for a equalizing tube. The x doesn't seem to look like a true x pipe. | ||
| Toysgarage |
thanks guys!! will try to upload a sound clip on the tube. its a 1 1/4 smallest ID purferated tube with coned inserts baffles in the hotdogs wraped with fiberglass and steel wool inside doesnt look like its collecting too much heat around the x pipe section so its not to much restricting on the flow (i hope). x pipe type collecters seems to work good on V8s so i thought id do the same.so its something between a 2 into 2 and a 2 into 1 without losing the V noise. cost me about 150 bucks AUD in material rest is labour, alot of it. rains not a problem with a small hole drilled on the lower end of the exhaust tips. the amount of pressure the engine produces should blow it all out anyways , would be exellent for turbo conversion,but. with the right size turbo housings it should make boost straight away. | ||
| Toysgarage |
thanks for the advice Blackflash!! yeah im not sure how the x pipe works on bikes so just tried to point the flow as straight as i could from end to end on the x the thing that took most of the time to complete was the tips. i asked heeps of people for there input and tried alot of different ways but still ended up with them pointing up at first i had them both on a more down angle,it looked good from side on view but on standing view it looked uneven and unfinished some how | ||
| Wkd14u2 |
one of the guys over this side of the pond has made this  trying the equal headers approach.... its bloody loud by all accounts but a work in progress..http://s874.photobucket.com/albums/ab30 ... 301135.flv i'd really like to see a reverse one ie exit at the front... Wkd1 (Message edited by wkd14u2 on January 11, 2010) | ||
| Blackflash |
Keep the good crafty work up.Ive got some mild steel scraps laying around from making a custum header for a guy.I think I'll play today and make a small x pipe and see what I can brew up.Heres a picture of my muffler.The company im working with told me that a true x pipe will also reduce db level if your angles are right.Merges do too.Thats my goal to reduce as much db as I can with design and not restrict the flow.  | ||
| Freight_dog |
Freight_dog - What do you want done, specifically? 2 into 1, 2 separate, 2x2 (crossover) or something else altogether? Materials are relatively cheap, compared to what's currently available. You just need someone to do the welding/fabrication part, right? Trying to keep my answer short, I like aspects of several systems. I like the Drummer, I just think they need to put more effort into the finish for the price. Specifically the exit pipe. For a grand they could afford to polish it, give it a nice turn out and either slash cut or finish with a rolled edge. Even then a $1000 is a lot for that. I like the Free Spirits, but again it is too expensive and I would prefer a crossover without the expense of a full system. I also am annoyed that the slip on is not compatible with the full system and the slip on seems to have fitment issues. I like the HPE but there aren't enough out there to get good feedback and again, they are very expensive. I like two into ones also. I like the looks of the Jardine best but too many have complained about the sound. If Blackflash's pipe comes out nice, I could be interested. It looks like a Drummer without the price tag. I am not trying to make any pipe myself because I want the finish of a professionally made one. I don't know if I am capable of that. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
"trying the equal headers approach.... its bloody loud by all accounts but a work in progress.." No discouragment meant here guys but that statement above might just be understated a bunch. Beautiful work though Toys. Looks great. Maybe one of the best looking IMHO. My very first try was a two into two but without the crosssover, 15" long fiberglass 1 3/4"I.D. X 3 1/2" dia. O.D. mufflers and was so loud I immediately canned it. It had practically no bottom end torque and the exhaust note was high pitched ear shattering loud. I believe the best systems for a twin of almost any "V" angle configuration will be a collector system or a two into one into two (impractical for Buells chassis layout) and probably proven by Buells own race system although it flows a little too much for practical street use. Just my personal experience FWIW. Bob | ||
| Blackflash |
 I will throw some 4 legs on her and I'll get her welded and see how she looks .But an x pipe will add more value to the system that I'm creating.All in all people dont want to pay . | ||
| Therealassmikeg |
Man...You guys are doing some nice work! It's nice to see the progress and ultimately a finished product. Really enjoying this thread. |
