| Author | Message | ||
     Blackflash |
I already looked into the flowmaster they are way to long.Even there super 40 series in a 2" was way to big. | ||
| T_man |
If you want a deep sounding exhaust check out the HPE in this thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/500776.html | ||
| Mike1125r |
I have the buell race pipe.It sounds great its not as loud as some claim. I've had to pipe for over a year on the street and the track. I ride with jap bikes with full exhausts some of them are louder then me. Nobody ever says my bike it too loud. I've never been stopped by the police on the street. My v-rod was louder, I had a vance hines indy race pipe w/baffle. Now that was loud!!!!!! | ||
| Blackflash |
When I heard Dannys bike I fell in love with the sound. The only pipes I've heard in person is the buell pipe. Fmf full which latus was using I heard it in the dock.jardine, stock ,& the hmf on dairylands bike .They let me rev it up in the dock. And the fmf / buell seemed to be the winner with my ears. | ||
| Mike1125r |
Buell did a great job on the buell race pipe. Fits great on the bike and makes great power!!  | ||
| Mike1125r |
Heres how it looks new.  | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Would love to have that pipe Mike but $$$ | ||
| Dammitquikgentry |
Is that pipe even available to the public? Sorry, probly stupid question | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
Yeah the Buell race system looks nice but since it's a full system, I'm sure it's expensive! How much was it? | ||
| Blackflash |
Have youu ever taken the internal apart and seen what kind of design it looked like inside? | ||
| Mike1125r |
Buell race pipe inside view. First pic is the y pipe 2nd & 3rd and through the exhaust tip.    | ||
| Mike1125r |
Its just a straight perforated pipe going through what appears to be a muffler. It does make it quieter opposed to just having a solid straight through pipe. | ||
| Blackflash |
At least buell was smart enough to use ss packing instead of fiberglass .Jardines hmfs fmfs are all fiberglass.What you got there mike is a pipe that will never or will take a long time to burn the packing out?Most of these companys dont tell you that if you run the stock tune with a jardine,hmf,fmf that you burn the packing out in 5 k.What a joke!!! Thanks for the pics mike good stuff.I plan on using stainless packing in my pipe i plan on making.It will only be a slipon.But im looking to do a similiar style as the buell.I cant wait till monday and talk to my buddy at the muffler company/shop.They hydroform, roll form, all that great stuff. | ||
| Marcodesade |
So backflash: is it possible to "upgrade" to SS in a pipe that uses fiberglass packing? Where would one get the SS? And would SS be compatible with a CF can? | ||
| D_adams |
I found this while hunting around for alternatives. It's on another forum. The stuff is similar to asbestos I guess, in that it doesn't burn easily.
Forum link is http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43 895 The product itself http://www.thermalceramics.com/site.asp?siteid=4&p ageid=44 | ||
| Jng1226 |
Is the magic in the Buell Race Exhaust the headers? I ask because Mike's pictures look very similar to the inside of my HMF. When the times comes for repacking my HMF, I would be interested in using SS as Blackflash mentions, thanks for the tip. Jeff | ||
| Blackflash |
I believe the down pipes f& r are longer then join together in front of the muffler. That makes good torque.That's plenty good enough. A x pipe probably Adds 200.00 to a exhaust system. I don't think the x pipes really help much either. It does help but not much. They say you gain minscule amounts on a v8 over a crossover t tube/or y conjunction found on camaros/mustangs.it was a muscle mustang mag dyno shootout I read about pipes .maybe 5 hp over h pipe on a 400 ci motor. So calculate the cc on this bike it's even smaller.I'm going with a y equalizer tube setup like the buell system with long down pipes.This keeps cost down . 1 to 2 peek hp isn't worth 200$ on a pipe in my eyes. It's just a showpiece that's all. Showpieces that people can't afford and wiegh more. | ||
| Mike1125r |
Primary header tubes are bigger in diameter and they are longer in length.  | ||
| Blackflash |
mike does it look like the baffle inside the muffler is bigger that the 2 into 1 y conjunction?The y conjunction seems to look 2" as well?They would detonate alot of sound if so and keep the flow regulated. | ||
| Mike1125r |
No its not smaller the Y pipe merges into 2 1/2 inches all the way out to the exhaust tip. | ||
| Mike1125r |
I dont know the diameter of the primary tubes. The primary header tubes are smaller. They look about 2" | ||
| Blackflash |
2.5 O.D.? Where the y is located is a excellent spot for sound detonation.The y merge compresses the two together at the last minute. | ||
| Mike1125r |
Hope this helps  | ||
| D_adams |
I would imagine that one would be a bit loud. I've got a design set in my head now and I have some theories on how to dampen the sound. It will be different enough from the current systems that it will hopefully be set a bit apart from them in terms of looks, sound and what it costs me to make it. I doubt I'll do the headers, 1.75" primaries for a street bike is plenty in my mind. I'll stick with my original plan and go with the 2.5" midpipe and outlet/outlets. I'm kinda liking the idea of a cannon hole for an outlet, plus there's a reason the race pipe is that size, same as the stock pipe internals.  | ||
| Blackflash |
Yeah adams that tune is probably a rich one as well.Have you ever checked your mileage mike?I have theorys on how to get rid of some sound but keep it deep and flow good.The guy im working with threw a bunch of options out to how we are going to detonate sound and keep it deep and quiet with a smaller muffler as the buell ,fmf full pipe. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Good plan both of you guys. If I ever do another one I am going to buy perforated tubes and build a turbo type system from scratch with as long primaries as practical that would fit nicely and completely under the 1125's engine and still clear a full fairing. I really believe after all my work with other vehicles its the only way to have performance AND a reasonably quiet system that sounds nice. Racing where loud sound is not a problem would be different as noted by Buells race pipe. Bob | ||
| Huduguru |
I'm a newb and have read all about the Torquehammer, but really liked the tone of the Saron--are they still being made? Saron is no longer on the UK Trojan's website--any idea? thx | ||
| Mountainstorm |
Man that Race exhaust is everything I want. I've got the Buell race exhaust on my X-1 and love it. Now to hustle up the clams. Thanks for all the pics and info Mike. | ||
| Blackflash |
Well I finally ended up at the exhaust company today.They set me up with there engineer and was completely awesome about what im trying to achieve.A great flowing multi chambered deep sounding exhaust system that will never burn the packing out.They designed me a muffler in a 4 x8 x 10 long oval case that look like a piece of art.The tig welders and there welds looked awesome. I toured the entire shop met all the supervisors.They really took the time to help me.I didnt know that there was people like that out there anymore. All the components are 304 stainless "Even the packing".They bent me up some quick downpipes to get me started. When i was there I was looking at all the pictures of pro fuuny drag cars chassis they were working on/motorcycles and trick custom stuff they make.They just finished production of a delorian exhaust sytem.They all gathered around took a very close look at my cutout muffler and focus on making the flow just a little more but also focus on keeping it light and deep sounding.They have great prices too.I should have my prototype by next wendsday.I also plan on tucking it up more to the engine tighter than the drummer.Hopefully by next week after I mock it all up it will be ready for a dyno test.First stock then with the o s b tune stock.Then onto the muffler with stock form ecu then with the o s b performance flash. Then if changes need made I will open it up and do some playing.I walked out with plenty of money in my pocket to.A big plus!! | ||
| Bordercop |
Whats is a better exhaust Buell Racing or Free Sprits RS-413 complete exhaust system for all 1125 |
