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T_man
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To run at the same pace or faster with an '06 Gixxer Thou is no small feat. Mine with the HPE and my own ECU tweaks is slightly faster than an '03 R1 - but thats about 20hp short of what an '06 Gixxer Thou puts out. Maybe there is more potential locked in the fueling - maybe not.
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine does run REAL strong! I have not had the opportunity like Jake to run with any of the "big dogs".

Dris had shown in his dyno charts how proper fueling can unleash the potential of the Helicon engine with the Torque Hammer exhaust.

I'm hoping for a little warm weather so I can play and get some dyno runs in.

Like I have mentioned b4, my stock ECM with the latest flash runs pretty darn good with the TH. It does run MUCH stronger with Dris' mapping but, MPG does suffer some.

Can GSD get you the mapping from Dris? Maybe that's an alternative.

Time2Run
Neil S.
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Torquaholic
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just reading up on the posts about how fast these TM Torque hammer exhausts plus custom tunes are.... sheesh. I am just about floored.

For kicks, I youtube'd Joe's (littlebutquick) latest video, saw that his trap speed with the TM combo was 137mph!

That is definately GSXR1000 territory. I checked out a few more youtube vids, one "08 Suzuki GSX-R1000 Drag Race" showed an 08 model running the 1/4 mile at claimed 145mph on his time slip. That's on an '08... an '06 might not be as fast.

Darn impressive, I must say. I think most stock bikes are running in the low-mid 120's right? To gain 10-15mph in the 1/4 mile is a substantial power increase.

Dris, any news on the group buy/discounted Torque Hammer deal?
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Judd
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 1125CR ran 128mph stock. My 145RWHP R1 ran right around 140mph. Your right,,, 137mph is alot.
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Easyrider
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Torquaholic,

Please contact Pete at Grandstanddesign about this. He is much better and quicker in arranging this for you guys.

Greetings
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dris:
How's the new map coming along? Give me a shout when you get a little time.

Thx
Neil
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont forget you Neil , so busy with the 2010 stage 1 kits, that i need all my Time and sleep. As soon as i have some spare time left ( i Hope nect week) i let you know
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dris:

Thx, just checking.

Neil
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil, Mail send with mods for fuel..
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dris:

Thank you. I'll work on it this weekend.

Neil S.
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Today was my first commute day with the latest map revision. I ended up with 4.2gal at 135 miles. Getting better but not quite where the stock ECM was.

Before I ask for any more changes I need to get some more runs in. A little change in ambient temp can mask the map revisions so I can't can't make an apples to apples comparison.

Thanks Dris for your hard work!

Neil S.
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Easyrider
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any News Neil... (wintertime here with snow and temp far below zero) gggrrrrr
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Bertman
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does this "tweak" affect, is it just an adjustment to the closed loop settings? What does it take to adjust your map to these new parameters since I have one of your ECM's already.

Brett
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Easyrider
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brett,

We are experementing with the fuel Milage, on cruising fuel cels. Neil is so kind to try everyting.. When finished it's available..
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is hope tomorrow that the weather will be warm enough to RIDE!!
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Hdwrenchtx
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i rode over 300 miles today.

yes i am rubbing it in.
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

23F this AM with freezing fog. I almost didn't even drive the truck in!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil - CF bits are on the way -
Merry Christmas!

Z
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Nope, not Celsius. : )
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

23F this AM with freezing fog

aaaack!

Boy do I love South Texas... I had to take the liner out of my jacket today, cause it was too hot.

R}
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Bordercop
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you love South Texas come on down to South Padre Island and look me up! Lost of warm weather here. The only bad part is no curvy roads.
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy:
You sure are lucky that it's dry out, especially with that BALD back tire!

The temp really doesn't bother me with my Gerbing gear. I remember one time on my X3 riding on a 25F morning with frost around. I passed over a bridge over a creek. Yep it was still frost covered. At 70mph, that rear tire spun up REAL quick. I was able to reduce my throttle just b4 I passed over the bridge. That morning the pucker factor was WAAAAY high!

Considering the few weeks that I can't readily ride here in middle TN, I won't trade the roads and the weather the other weeks of the year.

Later
Neil S.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was Saturday afternoon, it snowed Saturday night and Sunday morning, and the roads are still slick. Ulynut bit it twice in a mile from his house, somehow I made it to work with only one pucker moment. I would take another picture, but it hasn't been as cold so it wouldn't have the same effect. : )

Starting Xmas day I got just over a week off, I am thinking of hopping on my 1125R as its my only bike with good tires, and then hit up Suches and stop by Bumpus : )
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Jonesz0003
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

are ya'll taking off in 2nd gear when your at the track or how are ya'll doing the launch???
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Frank:
Give me a little warning and I'll meet you at Bumpus in Murfreesboro. I do have to work but I also have options. Dress warm.

Neil S.
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Hdwrenchtx
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this is what i get for giving all you guys up north grief for not being able to ride due to weather.

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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like 10"+. Lucky dog!
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Blackflash
Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For kicks, I youtube'd Joe's (littlebutquick) latest video, saw that his trap speed with the TM combo was 137mph.
Darn impressive, I must say. I think most stock bikes are running in the low-mid 120's right? To gain 10-15mph in the 1/4 mile is a substantial power increase.



Well if i could run 137mph in a quarter mile that would be great but im at 10.52 134.5.But again I wiegh 175lbs unlike littlebutquicks 120lbs.So thats about right drop 55 lbs and gain about 3 mph.I run the O s b tune and a stock muffler/bike.So in my eyes its not really impressive.Just my findings not bashing anyone.But wieght does matter on any bike dragracing.
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Judd
Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran something like 128mph in the 1/4 and I weigh in at roughly 175... more like 185-190lbs with gear. I think most are running in the 125-129 range. Running 137 is quite a gain from a slip-on and tuning.
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Blackflash
Posted on Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Drop 50lbs and you'll drop 3 tenths. My 120lb buddy runs gxsr 750 and he runs 10.20s the owner of same bike before him wieghs 180. he ran high 10.50s.I give props to his timeslips but wieght has alot to do with it. Not the tune or slipon. Hell a stock muffler and a tune has proven to make the same power as a jardine with a tune.I believe slipons do little to nothing for these bikes except drop wieght and put a hole in your pants.
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