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Pogue_mahone
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 03:31 pm: |
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the complete and utter perfection in a fuel can has been ruined by our moron government. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/ |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 03:56 pm: |
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I fail to see the problem. These cans have been available for years, and the old cans have been illegal for about a year now. The world hasn't exploded yet, life goes on. |
Ulynut
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 04:29 pm: |
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"Child proof" is good, but I hate those #%#& things. I think a child can open one quicker than I can. |
Pogue_mahone
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 04:56 pm: |
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correction-- old cans are just old. and a perfect vessel for transport or storage. i keep mine full to fill the buell when short of time to fill at station or when short of gas money. |
Greg_e
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 05:11 pm: |
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I fail to see the problem... They still sell the old style blue water cans. Got a spray can? |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 05:26 pm: |
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quote:"Child proof" is good, but I hate those #%#& things. I think a child can open one quicker than I can.
They are easy to open, just squeeze the tab and twist, but working at a gas station for 5 years I got used to it.
quote:I fail to see the problem... They still sell the old style blue water cans. Got a spray can?
I noticed the same thing on the site, it makes me wonder if the water jugs are treated at all, as usually gas jugs are treated to prevent the gas from eating away at the can. Another thing not mentioned above, the new child safety caps are only part of the regulation change. There is also changes that make it so the cans are spill-proof and will not emit vapors like the old cans. It is estimated that over 70,000 gallons of gas are spilled each year. From my research, it looks like the old cans have been illegal in California since 2000, and other states have slowly followed suit. The 2009 law makes it apply to all states now. |
Brumbear
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 05:42 pm: |
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This is a much better gas can http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/467809/ |
Bikertrash05
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 05:57 pm: |
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I think I use the previous slower flowing version of this: http://tuffjug.com/index.php?page=shop.product_det ails&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1&category_id= 1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 With my other cans, I just cut the plastic ratcheting thing off. |
Pogue_mahone
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 07:42 pm: |
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the illegal can is 100 percent sealed when closed.no vapors,no leaks. and for the fuel leakage/losses i see big dumb 4x4 trucks as wasting far more fuel than any fuel can. an ingenious solution to a non existent problem. meanwhile on my daily commute i see 4x4 long bed dually trucks hauling just the driver to and from work. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 08:06 pm: |
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quote:the illegal can is 100 percent sealed when closed.no vapors,no leaks.
Yes these cans appear to be good and leak proof, but not all are. Also, these cans were not in compliance with the Children's Gasoline Burn Prevention Act.
quote:and for the fuel leakage/losses i see big dumb 4x4 trucks as wasting far more fuel than any fuel can.
I haven't seen a single modern pollution controlled vehicle waste a drop of gasoline. Cars are equipped with advanced evaporative emissions systems that capture gasoline vapors to prevent them from venting to the atmosphere. Even gas pumps have their own evap emissions control devices to prevent a loss and an introduction to unnecessary hydrocarbons into the atmosphere.
quote:an ingenious solution to a non existent problem.
Both the spilling problem (70k lost gallons a year) and child safety problem (there have been cases of children playing with cans, vapors escaping and igniting) have both now have potential fixes. Are they perfect? Nope, but it will reduce potential injuries and costs of lost fuel.
quote:meanwhile on my daily commute i see 4x4 long bed dually trucks hauling just the driver to and from work.
Yep, because it is impossible for that the truck is on its way to pickup a coworker and head off to the supply yard and pickup 1500lbs of cement mix. Even if it was someone commuting in it, it is his economic loss, not yours. Do what I did and buy a Blast. |
Cycleaddict
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 10:56 pm: |
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hmmm , child proof lighters, child proof gas cans, whats next child proof guns ? how could a responsable parent allow their children to play with such things ? ever seen the stupid warning picture they(?) print on 5gal. drywall buckets now ?intended to keep the "breeders" brood(baby) from climbing into the bucket of liquid & drowning . |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 11:22 pm: |
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Yes, because its impossible for a kid to find a poorly placed gas jug and knock it over, or possibly knock it off a shelf. In one case, that was what happened, and a kid was doused with gasoline and the vapors ignited. Shit happens, and no amount of safety equipment will ever make things perfect, but if something as simple as a revised gas cap can prevent accidents at no cost, it would be stupid and irresponsible to not implement it. |
Pogue_mahone
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 11:35 pm: |
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froggy.i pick on trucks because it is stupid how many are DD's and their fuel economy SUCKS. did not mean they leak etc etc. and we all pay for that economic loss.fuel demand is high because they so thirsty--you and i pay for that at the pump.and in dirty air. |
Cycleaddict
| Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 11:35 pm: |
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man cannot be "saved" from himself . so society will try to save man from himself. the measures get more and more far reaching. now the general public no longer has to "think " . i prefer to let dumbasses be dumbasses , if they die because of their own stupitty so be it.(chances are their kids will be dumbasses too.) (Message edited by cycleaddict on December 20, 2009) |
Ronin1
| Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 09:10 am: |
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My Dad taught me the "natural selection" process, if your dumb enough to hold the blade while plugging in the saw, you can be called "Lefty" the rest of your life. Let common sense rule. |
Nadz
| Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 04:03 pm: |
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I prefer the old cheap plastic jugs that store the spout in the can. They simply work like you think they should, seal completely when closed, and cost 1/3 as much, and have no intricate mechanisms to fail in the field or break off in the cold. Since I've never spilled a drop or set myself on fire, I guess I'll just keep usijng my "dangerous" antique. Thanks for making the world more expensive, CARB. |
2008xb12scg
| Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 06:50 pm: |
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Last time I needeed A gas can nobody had one. I bought A gallon of milk, dumped out the milk and filled it with gas. I wouldn't recomend this... |
Roysbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:00 am: |
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My parents owned a print shop and was taught early in life what a pinch point was. Today I see equipment with safety labels on where one shouldn't put fingers or hands. This should be common sense. To have a bright red sticker telling me I should not put my hand into the giant cylinder rotating at 10,000 rpms is dumb. As for this new safety can, it should be common sense that the less fumes escape the better. I myself have kicked over a can of fuel in the garage and it would have been great if it had not spilled. If they can make something safer do it, putting a sticker on it doesn't make it safer. |
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