| Author | Message | ||
     Jdugger |
More power means more waste heat. Radiators or not, it's no surprise to me the 1125r has the problem when the XB does not. | ||
| Unibear12r |
The amount of fumes that escape from the Cali carbon cannister after a hard days ride in 110 degree heat is NOTHING like what you 49rs get on a mild day even. VERY small amount of fumes. When my dealer mistakenly installed the drip tube upgrade to my Cali bike it was astounding what it did to my garage when I got it home. I reconnected the cannister right then and there. The cannister works. You'll like the results. | ||
| Ekunyvan |
True, more power certainly takes the problem to a new level. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
My '00 X1 Millennium never did anything like this. My wife's first comment when my 09R starting dripping in the garage was, "That's not going to work" ... Followed by, "Your last Buell didn't leak fuel like that." Try as I might to convince her it isn't technically a fuel leak, she wasn't buying it. Best $3 quick fix yet for me! Mike (Message edited by milleniumx1 on November 30, 2009) | ||
| Jomartijr |
Guys, Here's a flash for you- some of the XB bikes have done this to varying degrees including mine ( 2007 Uly) until I installed the comfort kit which ducts rear engine heat to the rear instead of to the side. In fact I can still smell some fuel vapor at times a few minutes after shutoff as engine heat soak takes place but not to the degree it did. | ||
| Redscuell |
Although it's hard to understand how some could detect NO petrol odours with the CA canister, and some could detect SOME, perhaps it's a difference in fuels (I'm in Australia), or maybe it's a difference in sensitivity to odours. I can say that my wife now NEVER complains about the smell, with the CA canister in place. Ultimately, maybe that's what it's all about!  Yes, we get extremely hot weather here in the south of Oz, just like y'all do. Into the 100-120 F. And now that we're back to those temps (it's the first day of summer here) I am reminded I'd not be able to ride the 1125R on a hot day without leathers: all that heat off the left radiator.  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I think it's safe to say that the carbon can reduces a major nuisance to a non-issue. | ||
| Pwillikers |
Can someone please post the part numbers for all the bits required to install the Cali canister on a 49 state version? Thanks. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
27042-84A Carbon Canister <> Retail = $37.50 P0066.1AM Hose, TB to Can <> Retail = $9.75 P0067.1AM Hose, Fuel Vent (CALIF) <> Retail = $13.25 (Prices might be different now, and I know you can find these canisters cheaper than that with a small amount of Google time) Mike | ||
| Mikezx9r |
Does anyone have a pic of where the hose coming from the cannister connects to the throttle body? Does it matter which port on the cannister each hose connects to? (Message edited by mikezx9r on December 11, 2009) | ||
| Froggy |
Can't help with the throttle body, but there are 2 holes on the can. "To Carb" goes to the throttle body, and "Vent" goes to the gas tank vent. Not sure if it really matters or not. | ||
| Redscuell |
It IS surprising that the 09 shop manual does not show a pic of the routing; nor of where the canister itself was designed to be fitted. The manual says something about clipping it into its bracket, but I've not found a bracket that would received it. I had to work out the hose attachment point from clues buried on Badweb, because if you're looking for a fitting from above, the fitting is not an easy-to-find brass one but is instead covered with a black rubber cap: at the centre left-hand side of the throttle bodies, buried under the linkage springs, is a vacuum fitting into the t/bs. Remove the cap (I used a screwdriver to reach it) and attach the "L" shaped end of the oem hose (that you need to buy with the canister) to that vacuum fitting; the other end of the hose goes to the canister where it is marked. Nothing more to it, other than fitting the additional, longer oem hose to the fuel tank breather. Having said that, it's IMPOSSIBLE to replace the rubber cap from above with linkages installed, if you want to remove the canister permanently! | ||
| Aeholton |
Is it possible to put the hose on the fitting without removing the throttle bodies? | ||
| Ezblast |
09 CR - Antioch, Ca - no smell. EZ | ||
| Redscuell |
"Is it possible to put the hose on the fitting without removing the throttle bodies?". Absolutely. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Redscuell - That's good to hear. The main reason I hadn't installed the canister was I didn't want to mess with a big job to solve a fairly minor problem (IMO). Do tell ... Please!! Mike | ||
| Keef |
i am getting ready to install mine in about 30 min ... let u know how it went when i am done..  | ||
| 1324 |
Keef, keep us posted on your before/after. My can is still a few days away. Even riding on a 33 degree day like today fills up my garage with fumes...although not like when its warmer. | ||
| Whynot |
Just got my can and the hoses -- any pics of hose routing and connections appreciated. -Kurt | ||
| Oyrider |
CR in SoCal. No fumes! | ||
| Aeholton |
i am getting ready to install mine in about 30 min ... let u know how it went when i am done.. Guess it turned into a much bigger job than expected? Did you ever finish?  | ||
| Keef |
sorry i did not get back here sooner... i installed the canister and the lines on my 09cr first pulll the seat then the airbox cover after the airbox cover is off CAREFULLY unclip the upper airfilter cover off as i said be careful not to break the clips then remove the lower airbox after you remove the 2 front screws it lifts up from the back and pull it rearward after that is off, the throttle bodys will be exposed . The fitting you want is on the left side of the front thottle body it is under the throttle linkage...i used the black allen wrench in the tool kit to remove the 2 bolts holding the linkage to the throttle body i rotated the linkage towards the frame (counterclockwise) then i used a screwdriver to get the cap loose and a pair of needle nose plyers to pull it down and out of there...one of the hoses has a prebend in it and it is the one that goes on the fiiting, route the hose BELOW and BEHIND the wiring to the IAC (idle air control)motor..after that put it all back together careful don't drop the bolts for the linkage may be tough to get them back, i had a magnet handy and used it to avoid dropping either bolt...be careful putting the lower air box on the little hose the goes through on the right side has to be puuled all the way through it is up about an inch or so make sure the throttle goes fully open and not binding on that hose also there is a square rubber that has to go on the under side rear of the lower cover make sure those 2 are correct. The canister needs the lines on the left side of the bike and i had to loosen the rear brake master cylinder resevior to get it to go in ....So it took me about an hour to do but i am a mechanic by trade so it might take a regular person up to maybe 1.5 - 2.0 hours then maybe not. Anyone needing help can PM me with a phone # and i can talk you through it ifyou need help   | ||
| Whynot |
Great detail -- thanks -- I can picture it -- -Kurt | ||
| Mikezx9r |
My canister should be in tomorrow. Ill see how long it takes to install with a gimpy finger. | ||
| Kevin_stevens |
Update: Over the past three days I've been driving an enclosed E150 van with my 1125CR (CA version) loaded in it with 3/4 of a tank of gas. No odor noticeable either when loaded (with a hot engine), or overnight. KeS | ||
| Pwillikers |
Keef, thank you for the directions. Please confirm that these are the only parts required to add the CalCanister to a 49 state version. I'm ordering the parts and want to make sure I've got everything in hand. 27042-84A Carbon Canister <> Retail = $37.50 P0066.1AM Hose, TB to Can <> Retail = $9.75 P0067.1AM Hose, Fuel Vent (CALIF) <> Retail = $13.25 (parts list courtesy of Milleniumx1) | ||
| 1324 |
Those are the parts. Mine arrived last night and will make on the bike very soon. | ||
| Mikezx9r |
I did my canister today. Getting the hose on the nipple on the TB was a pain in the balls. Otherwise, it wasnt too bad. Is there anywhere to clip the canister to or does it just sit under the seat? I didnt see anywhere or any mention of a bracket to buy. | ||
| Keef |
just lays there.... | ||
| Mikezx9r |
Thats how I left it. It didnt look like it had room to go anywhere. |
