| Author | Message | ||
     Cme2c |
So, I've been working on cars & bikes for about 40 years. Every vehicle I've worked on has had a spin-on oil filter except for my Dad's '56 Chevy stovebolt 6 that had a canister with a removable filter element. Fast forward to my '04 Mini Cooper and the return of a canister filter, and now the same on my 1125. Is there a functional reason for the return of the canister type filter? | ||
| Froggy |
Because they like to be a pain in the ass and not let you show off your Fram Suregrip  | ||
| Ccryder |
It's a space issue, and a protection issue. Also the Euro guys like the cartridge versus spin-on. | ||
| Petereid |
Also lets you see if you have a lot of crap on the filter that maybe shouldn't be there | ||
| Dano_12s |
It may be less waste to landfills?Most are burnable also. | ||
| Dirty_john |
"euro guys like cartridge" - rubbish - none of my mates or any of us have any preference either way, any solution that is well engineered gets our vote. Since Rotax already used the same filter in the Aprilla Mille why change from a known design - its all about saving production costs. | ||
| Vicfirebolt |
not to hijack but what's the feeling on K&N filters vs stock? | ||
| Ccryder |
Hey DJ: SOrry I grouped all of "you" together. It has been my experience that the Euro designers of past have leaned towards the internal filter versus the spin on type. I know that Ducati has changed over but have not studied the other brands with respect to their latest preference.. Vic: K&N oil filters? | ||
| Brumbear |
how bout to deter you from changing your own oil and going to the dealer for the real reason most things are done | ||
| Chevycummins |
Cheaper to produce and can charge just as much or more for the element. The thing I don't like about oil or fuel filter elements are its easier to get dirt in the system while the filter is being removed. Happens mostly on diesel fuel systems and can cause injection pump issues. | ||
| Homer007 |
how is a removable filter a deterrent from changing your own oil? removable filters are just as easy if not easier to change than the canister type, especially on bmws.. | ||
| Chadhargis |
All of my vehicles have a cartridge filter except my scooter, which only has a wire screen...no filter. The most ingenuous of them all is the Mercedes engine in my Jeep. It has a cartridge filter right on top of the motor. Spin off the plastic cap, pull out the element, drop in a new one. As they say at Staples, "That was easy!". | ||
| Gearhead571 |
I agree. The cartridge if intelligently placed is the way to go if you ask me. I seem to make a huge mess with spin on filters regardless if its a bike, car, or semi. Cartridge on the Bimmer is very easy and I have yet to make a mess with it. And I like the fact that I can see if the engine is coming apart too without having to cut an outer shell. | ||
| Bertman |
After working in both aftermarket parts stores and a dealership where it was quite amusing to see these "old fashioned" canister filters making a come back, my answer is money of course. 1-Cost to manufacture is less per filter. 2-If you make the outer housing proper (for the dealer that is) no one will have a wrench take it off with except the dealer. This only applies to spin on style outer housings, not the bolt on 1125r filter housing. 3-Exclusivity for the one or two years it takes the aftermarket to ramp up their own version of that filter. In the car market that means you the dealer get to sell your oem filter even to Jiffy Lube because - they have no choice. | ||
| Tbird71 |
Chad; I'm with you on the Mercedes...wifey has a Crossfire (Mercedes) and it's right there on top...no problemo...the ### shroud UNDER the damn motor where the drain plug hides beneath is another matter...LOL...Our Chrysler dealer will change oil for 10 bucks if I bring in the filter and the Mobil 1. No brainer. | ||
| Crowley |
Euro folk dislike the cartridge as much as anyone else. The real reason is Eco disposal regs forced on us by tree hugging Hippies. | ||
| 46champ |
Probably because spinon oil filters were invented in the USA so obviously it can't be any good. |
