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Zac4mac
| Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:09 pm: |
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I just use what the book says. I remember an Anony post that either Water-Wetter or Engine Ice is BAD for the Helicon. My poor beat-up memory can't remember which so I avoid both. Zack |
Homer007
| Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:12 pm: |
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What color was everyone elses? My coolant was a very pale yellow. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:29 pm: |
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Zack, The anony post said NOT to use PROPYLENE GLYCOL. It said to USE ETHYLENE GLYCOL. Luckily for use coolant is hazardous so the bottle MUST say what type it is. The HD coolant says it is ETHYLENE GLYCOL. ac |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:31 pm: |
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Thanks Tony. I spent 15 minutes playing with "search", found it posted and then realized y'all already did that.... Gonna go back to bed. Z |
Bobbuell1961
| Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 08:06 pm: |
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Homer mine is piss yellow,you can not see it thru the pod. just to be sure i checked it , i'm good to -34f. I do wish it was orange like HD's so i could see it thru the pod, |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 08:19 pm: |
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Water Wetter is one of the few things that you are allowed to run on the track. Plain water is okay, but it won't lubricate the water pump seals or fight corrosion. I've used Engine Ice in my old track bike, and never had an issue. |
Billp
| Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 12:43 pm: |
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+1 on the low coolant. I just checked mine and it was empty except for a few drops in the bottom. I'll have to pick some up this weekend. Bunch of turkeys at the dealer for not prepping the bike. Thanks to whomever started this thread. |
White79bu
| Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 06:06 pm: |
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Zac and Tony, Whats wrong with using the engine ice or something else? I have been using Liquid performance in my bike for almost a year and a half. The only reason I do is because of doing track days. I haven't had an issue yet. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:17 pm: |
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I seem to remember GM's DexCool being ethylene glycol? |
Joebuell
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 09:09 am: |
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just checked yesterday. The coolant tank was a 1/4 in below the cold mark while on the rear stand. It's supposed to be checked on the sidestand so it was certainly a bit low, but not dry. However, that coolant is so pale, I cannot see it through the pod peep hole. I'm not worried about coolant yet as I'm still trying to find my oil.... |
Keef
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 01:04 pm: |
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gm fluid is ethyl glycol so yes it will work in the 1125 cooling system and is nice brite orange color
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 04:01 pm: |
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Keef, that's what I was thinking too ... Not just the ethylene glycol (GM DexCool), but also the color since I can't make out that yellowish color in that indicator. I did check to see that mine was full, and I still can't see it. I can't imagine any issues with topping off with DexCool, but I'm always glad to listen to those with more experience?? Mike |
Puredrive
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 04:35 pm: |
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When I first checked the coolant..Two weeks after I got the bike the color of the coolant on the reservoir was yellowish in color. On the last time when I noticed that the reservoir was empty and wanted to add DI water to the radiator. The color of the coolant was red O_o so yeah..What's up with that? lol |
Skntpig
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 04:43 pm: |
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I just googled GM dexcool and found various websites that talk about problems with corrosion, and rubber seals and gaskets in cars with dexcool. Worth more investigation. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 05:08 pm: |
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Skntpig, I've had a number of newer GM cars that ran DexCool. I too remember lots of chatter, but never really did any research. If it's found to be problematic, I won't be putting it in my bike. I'd hate to pay $20 for a gallon of the H-D proper stuff, but compared to the alternatives there are much bigger things I could lose sleep over. Mike |
Skntpig
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 05:54 pm: |
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I have a CTS-V with Dex in there. I haven't seen any evidence of an issue in my car yet. That reminds me I should probably flush and refill it. Still under warr so I'll just use Dex again. |
Keef
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 06:35 pm: |
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When dexcool first came out there was an issue with the formula but that was taken care of back in 02-03 so NO worries there now
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Sknight
| Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 08:34 pm: |
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Keef's right. Early Dex had serious issues with rust and basically turning to mud. It also has issues where it would leak where anything else wouldn't. Since '03 or so it hasn't been an issue on either front. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:53 am: |
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That sounds positive wrt DexCool. I recall the chatter and concern starting with some '01 era GM products I bought, but it seemed to die away after a few years. If I dig deeply enough in my garage, I can probably find a jug or two of the early stuff ... No worries, I won't use it or put it in the cat's bowl! Mike |
Byron
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 07:12 pm: |
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You might want to look at Honda Type 2 coolant. It's pre-mixed and also "NO silcate and borates". The last jug I bought might have been around $20 from a dealer but I've seen it as low as $10 on the net. |
Red93stang
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 07:35 pm: |
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+1 mine was empty also. Fords gold coolant is about the same color as well. It's ethel based also that's what I used. So much for dealer PDI and prep charges! |
Moosestang
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 08:01 pm: |
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I hate ford gold coolant! It doesn't mix well with water wetter either. Not to mention it's stupid expensive and hard to find. I will be switching out my ford coolant to prestone next time. |
Red93stang
| Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 09:14 pm: |
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Really Moose? Their are 5200 Ford dealers across the lower 48, their like Wal-Mart, theirs one on every corner. I would much rather use that then recalled radiator/heater core eating GM dex crap. That's why it's called "water" wetter, if they designed it to mix with coolant don't u think they would have called it "coolant" wetter? |
Keef
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 07:28 am: |
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Red, you are another of the misinformed, GM DEX COOL never "ate" a heater core or radiator, the early dex cool didn't like any air in the system and would chalk up in the air. that was fixed in 2002 seven years ago , by the way nobody should buy ford expeditions either because they flip over just driving down the road and kill people, dex cool never killed anyone |
Red93stang
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 08:24 am: |
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Speaking of misinformed, it was the Exploders not the Expeditions. Come to find out it was the Firestone tires not the veh so the recalled the tires. That's what I love about the board, is reading about somebody stupid argument over nothing about Buell motorcycles. So back to the subject. All I was saying was Fords gold coolant is similar in color and is ethel based long life coolant. |
Sknight
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 08:55 am: |
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Not trying to stray too far off topic but it wasn't the tires, it was the pressures Ford speced to go into those tires trying to compensate for a crappy riding vehicle. And Keef's right about Dex eating stuff. It didn't eat it, would plug it up solid, but not eat it. You should have seen the crap you could backflush out of a heater core. |
Keef
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 09:04 am: |
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Yes i knew it was the explorers and yes i knew it was the firestone tires being underinflated per ford for a smoother ride i was just showing you how much things get twisted out of perportion most any extended life coolant E base will be ok the dexcool is brite orange and much easier to see than the yellow colored coolant
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 09:40 am: |
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I topped mine off with DexCool (since I wanted some color) plus added Water Wetter. I know the Wetter doesn't work the same at 50/50 coolant mix as it does pure water, but every little bit helps and I like the lube properties. I know from running it in an ATI-supercharged Firebird Formula that a few degrees is the difference between a nice cruise and a not-so-nice outing. Yes, much touchier than a stock Buell, but there's something to be said for peace of mind. Mike |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 10:15 am: |
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I guess I should hang out on a Camaro board not just BadWeB. Then I would have known why my Z-28 won't heat up anymore inside. Dexcool clogged it's heater core - thanks guys. Now I need to make it 4WD so I can drive it in the Winter. Z |
Moosestang
| Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 12:40 pm: |
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I have to run some antifreeze in my mustang. It does occasionally get down to freezing here. FWIW I do not buy any manufacturer spec'd oil or coolant anymore. It's all BS. It would be different if they actually priced it cheaper than the name brand stuff. I don't go to Ford to buy coolant. My local dealer is crap and I won't give them any of my money. |