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Buzzie
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:25 pm: |
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Just to let you all know. it is in the works to create warrenty repair and service bulletin information on this issue. Buell is sending me what they will be using for heat tape. |
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Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:32 pm: |
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good! |
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Sl33py
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:40 pm: |
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for both 08 and 09's? my 09 has some shielding on the inside right of my frame... but i still get it dripping out on the floor. thx for info!! |
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Froggy
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:52 pm: |
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Nice to see the gears are still turning ![: )](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/happy.gif) |
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Aeholton
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:54 pm: |
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My wife will be happy, if they come up with a fix. |
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Fran_dog
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 09:26 pm: |
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Glad to hear something is being done. It's a little disconcerting to hear the "boiling", smell the fumes, and see the fuel coming from the vent tube. I let mine cool before closing up the garage. When it's good and hot, and doing the "boiling" thing, check out the amount of fuel vapors coming from the vent. Keep any sources of ignition away. (Message edited by Fran_Dog on November 14, 2009) |
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Dmhines
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 09:26 pm: |
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I noticed my 09 CR also has reflective tape on the frame .. |
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Fresnobuell
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:19 pm: |
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I find this highly unlikely. Source please. |
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Cataract2
| Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:05 pm: |
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Yeah, more info on this would be nice. |
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Avalaugh
| Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 05:54 am: |
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My warrenty runs out in March 2010, do you guys think ill still get it done if the bulletin is released after the warrenty runs out ? |
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Rocketsprink
| Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:44 am: |
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I believe IF this is true, it would almost likely be a safety issue ans SHOULD be done to bike out of warranty as well |
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Court
| Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:02 am: |
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>>>My warrenty runs out in March 2010, do you guys think ill still get it done if the bulletin is released after the warrenty runs out ? I do not know. But . . I'd wager yes. Be CERTAIN to call Buell Customer Service, report the concern and get a case number. This gives you a "pre-expiration contact" to work with. |
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Buzzie
| Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 09:43 am: |
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This information came from Buell tech services and I am supposed to document my time for the support rep. so that data can be collected to figure how much to pay dealers for tech time. I do not make the decisions they will still want feedback from me as to whether or not this will help the situation. Official fix? I wouldn't say that just yet. |
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Bmonty72
| Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 03:52 pm: |
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After reading this thread...I tried something. It's not really all that practical, but it seemed to work. When I got home form work this morning (30 minutes at highway speed), I took my gas cap off while I removed my riding gear. Then before I went into the house I put the cap back on. I came back later and did not see any fuel under the vent hose. I'm thinking the heat builds up enough pressure to force fuel into the vent hose and removing the cap released a lot of pressure. Just a thought..let the flaming begin.... |
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Xnoahx
| Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 05:05 pm: |
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Just ride without a gascap. No pressure buildup problems. |
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Catrone
| Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 06:02 pm: |
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Yesterday I experienced this for this first time. I had noticed the smell of gas, but I didn't realize that is was pouring gas out. I made the mistake of taking the gas cap off to release some pressure. When I did that gas came shooting up out of the tank. It landed all over the bike and mirrors. Just a heads up let it go out the hose. Don't open the gas cap if it is already boiling. |
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Bmonty72
| Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:04 pm: |
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Wow...There should be some kind of pressure outlet on that cap to keep it from building up to that level!!!! |
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Sparropie
| Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:26 pm: |
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I installed a small ignighter right where the vent drips. Adds about 2 hp when I hit the afterburner switch![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/cyclone.gif) |
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1324
| Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:54 pm: |
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I also tried the 'remove the gas cap while cooling' trick after my 70 degree ride today. Unfortunately, I was greeted with a nice spray of gas and my tank was only about half full. Word to the wise: do NOT try and wipe the gasoline off the frame area around the gas cap, let it dry! Between the heat and gasoline, the factory black frame paint softens and balls right up. I didn't remove all the paint, but you can see where I wiped. I haven't checked it since the bike completely cooled, but hopefully the paint has returned to its original harder state. And yes, this is on an 09 with the factory applied thermo liner. I'll be doing some heat management work on this bike during winter... |
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Dcmortalcoil
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 01:19 am: |
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It's a good thing that I get gas only when empty gas light is on. |
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Avc8130
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:46 am: |
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My 09 is worse than my 08 as far as fryer oil fuel...don't get your hopes up for frame insulation saving the day. ac |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:05 am: |
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I always remove the gas cap on my 09R as if it were the radiator cap on a hot car ... Slowly and carefully. I haven't had it throw up on me, but I have heard the fuel bowling a time or two when I shut the engine off after a ride. I did notice removing it helped reduce (but not eliminate) the amount of drips out of my vent tube ... But my $3 trick of running a line outside of the garage and just plugging the bike to it when I get home works even better. Mike |
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1324
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:13 pm: |
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Mike, the thing is/was, I opened the cap too slowly. When I cracked it, the small flow area caused the gas to spray out. Quickly removing it seems to be better based on my experiences. Now that being said, I haven't had this thing out a good hot day in August... I'm thinking of having the headers ceramic coated, getting better insulation on the frame, and maybe even 'wrapping' with something like this: http://www.thermotec.com/motorcycle-clamp-on-pipe- shield-kit.html We'll see how the funds are this winter, but if it's hot on a 70 degree day on the back roads, I think its going to be hell on a hot day in traffic. Maybe it's a good thing I still have my XB? That thing is like riding an ice cube by comparison! |
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Avc8130
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:18 pm: |
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I don't get it. My 08 was just fine...even in the summer heat in traffic. No fuel boiling issues. That bike has NO frame insulation. The 09s seem to be WORSE. ac |
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Froggy
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:26 pm: |
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Neither my 08 nor my 09 have ever had issues. |
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Liquorwhere
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:32 pm: |
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I had my headers wrapped because it was melting my lowers and I have noticed a decrease in the heat on the lowers, the reflective material on the lowers was chewed up pretty quickly, I have noticed also that the amount of fuel dripping has decreased a little bit, but it has not stopped. Dunno if that info helps, but I think what it needs is a vented cap with a hose similar to my Honda dirtbike. Maybe we should send this to Matt at Trojan horse to start knocking up a model...that or something much better inside the frame area to resist the heat. Here in florida, 70 degree days are in winter so summer may be rough. |
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Sl33py
| Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 08:13 pm: |
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how much of an improvement is the ceramic coating vs. the header wrap? |
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Anakist
| Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 02:09 am: |
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I have had my headers ceramic coated. From a digital thermometer: Headers 67C. Collector, about an inch away from where the headers were measured 167C. And it definitely feels cooler when riding around. I would recommend doing the muffler in ceramic as well. Normal powder coat (i had this done for free as a test) just melts off, and if the temp of the muffler comes down as well it can only be a good thing! You will need to point the stingers away from the brake disc too!! James |
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Bri
| Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 02:57 am: |
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Is this a common problem with 1125r's ? Have over 10000 miles on mine in arizona with out this problem. |
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Dmhines
| Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 07:25 am: |
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I still say we can thank the GOV for this ... that 10% ETHANOL crap lowers the boiling point of the gasoline. Just wait until they go with the 15% mix!! |