| Author | Message | ||
     Dmhines |
Did the latest ECMSPY have the capability read and save 1125R and 1125CR EEPROMS as a text file ?? And then burn the EEPROM back? If so .. shouldn't somebody be able to get the latest flash from Buell (say M3PUS152) and supply the EEPROM txt file to the rest of the group and save us all a trip to the dealer? | ||
| T_man |
The answer is short answer is 'no'. You would have to change each individual cell. Seriously. I know because I asked the exact same question a while back. | ||
| Moosestang |
I was wondering the same thing. I'm not willing to try to load a different eeprom to my bike, but if someone else is, then i'll email them the 141 flash. If anyone has the 152 flash download I'd like a copy. | ||
| Dmhines |
Since it's a direct download and then program there is no cell changing on. It should work. The question is can the 1125 EEPROM be saves as a text file. | ||
| Moosestang |
Yes it can be saved as a text file. If you'd like to see the eeprom just send me an email at stang06@windstream.net Right, the only reason for individual cell changes are to tune the bike. You still have to use ecmspy to load the new file to the ecm. Someone with the O.S.B tune should be able to answer this question easily. If I wasn't so worried about rendering my bike inoperable, I'd go out right now and load the old flash to my bike. (Message edited by moosestang on November 09, 2009) | ||
| Dmhines |
Correct. Since we all don't want to necessarily TUNE our bikes ... we just want to FLASH to the latest factory tune I would think that ECMSPY should work just fine. The Sport bike software actually does the cell transcribing and all that stuff for turning ... but it still uses ECMSPY to do the BURN. One of the guys on the board that WORKS at a dealer ... should test out this theory ... just download you EEPROM and then BURN it back. Worst case you just have your mechanic fix it with using the factory programmer .... (Message edited by dmhines on November 09, 2009) | ||
| T_man |
Oooook fellas! You would not just be able to open an eprom and upload it. 'Ecm spy has to see a change to the file once opened and only burns the change it sees.' Meaning; it theoretically could be done - but not without a huge investment of time. I've fiddled around with ECMSpy quite a bit myself, and have observed ECMSpy refusing to 'upload' my original Eprom. For example; When I decided I to load my orginal Eprom back into the ECM - I had to manually go back and change every cell value back to the 'orginal Eprom' settings - ECMSpy wouldn't allow me to just 'upload it'. Capeche? I really wish it wasn't the case - but it appears it is. If someone knows a loop hole around this - do tell. Taker easy! | ||
| Dmhines |
There is a checkbox in ECMSPY to burn entire EEPROM or only burn changes. Doesn't really matter ... I need to go to dealer anyway and discuss trying to get my cluster replaced so I will have them do a FLASH then. Lots of folks bought their bikes long distance so being able to flash the latest maintenance EEPROMS would be beneficial. | ||
| Moosestang |
Tman, I have never had ecmspy refuse to burn an eeprom or map with my xb, maybe the 1125 is different. | ||
| Dmhines |
I did lots of tuning including loading EEPROMS received via email into my 2006 XB12 ... never had a problem burning EEPROMS either. PLEASE .. one of you guys that work at a Buell dealer try it!!! Please? | ||
| Moosestang |
My only concern is why does it take the dealer 30 minutes to update the ecm? Maybe they are completely wiping it and reloading the whole system. With the xb ecms you couldn't flash an eeprom with a different firmware version. Well all the 1125 flashes have different firmware. I'm sure you could burn the current eeprom back to your ecm, but like tman said, you might have to change each sell to match the latest flash if you wanted to update using ecmspy. If I remember correctly with the xb's, you could still revert back to your eeprom if you tried to burn the wrong firmware version. might be the same with the 1125's. (Message edited by moosestang on November 09, 2009) | ||
| Dmhines |
I know you couldn't burn a Race EEPROM dump to a non-Race ECM due to some of the data being in the wrong locations. You could only burn the MAPS. Guess that is why Sportbike has different maps for different Flashes on the 1125. Oh well .. if the 152 is as good as people are saying it is I guess it doesn't matter. I just want my bike to run cooler .. I can't believe how blue the pipes are on my CR after just 225 miles ... I assume it's running lean and not rich. I had my XB12 tuned perfect and the pipes never turned color. | ||
| Moosestang |
What flash is on your bike? My pipes have not turned blue with 600 miles. I just got the 141 update at 500 miles. what are your AFV's? | ||
| Dmhines |
I have the initial CR flash in my bike M3HUS10Z from 08-12-08 .... | ||
| T_man |
I'll wait for one of the EcmSpy guru's to chime in here - but take it to the bank when I say; Ecmspy DOES NOT work as seamlessly as it did with the XB's. Period. | ||
| Xbswede |
Guys ECM SPY will not burn anything to the bike if you leave the Burn changes only unchecked. You can not swap Eprom files and burn by un-checking the Burn only box. Been there and tried it over a year ago now before the nifty O-S-B was available. Either buy a pre-programmed ECM from twin motorcycles or a certain Performance Calibration and be done with it. There is no free fix. So be careful and don't screw your bikes over. | ||
| Moosestang |
So why does the o-s-b software even need ecmspy? No one is looking for a free lunch, the dealer flash is free, just not that convenient. | ||
| Zac4mac |
O.S.B. no longer needs ECM Spy to burn. Dave made a utility to do that part too. His stuff is totally free from Spy now, so Gunter can crawl back in his hole and hush. Still no way to burn a different set of maps all at once. Back to making Loretta run better. Z | ||
| Xbswede |
O.S.B only needed the aid of ECM SPY for the tuning when using the basic version of O.S.B (requiring manual entry) and for fine tuning after loading Per-Cal. But as Zac mentioned, soon will be replaced. |
