| Author | Message | ||
     Milleniumx1 |
Just a little background - Bought my '09R just after 10/15 and had the de-noid resistor ordered before the bike showed up at my house. After forcing it to activate a couple of times, I had no doubt that thing was going to be disabled. So in went the resistor plug. I remember reading about the amount of people that said they'd never encountered it, or even the CEL after removal at those moments it should have activated. I know riding styles differ, but for me, I would be hitting that 'magic combo' noid activation point almost all the time. While out riding today, I hit it four times ... Which I know because I'd stop when I safely could to cycle the key to clear the CEL. "Act Int Sys Error" - I had it memorized after awhile :-) I don't see how people DON'T hit it. It's just right in the sweet spot of 3rd for most of the country curvy roads I'm riding. Sure you wouldn't encounter it if you downshifted, or rolled into it without whacking the throttle to WFO. But for me personally, that roll-on (in 3rd) flicking from corner to corner is perfect without a shift down. That noid would have already killed me. Each time I see the CEL, I feel a little 'saved my a$$' smile. Mike } | ||
| Ccryder |
Yep, I still see the CEL 2-4 times a week due to hitting the e'noid. But, it's disconnected so no worries. This engine is has the tq to make it FUN at that rpm so that's why I get the "wink" passing or powering out of the corners. Later | ||
| Avc8130 |
Why are you guys going WOT so low in the RPMs? What were you previous bikes? If I am at 4800 rpm in 3rd and I want to go NOW I downshift and WOT. ac | ||
| Kevin_stevens |
I think a lot of people hit it during break-in just because they are following the <6K guidelines. Since that's over, I *normally* don't hit it because usually if I'm going WOT I'm above 5k. But there are instances where it catches me, most common would be where traffic is slowing in front of me, and before I would downshift there's an opportunity to change lanes and go. I've been waiting for my plug to show up and it continues to catch me out every couple of days. KeS | ||
| Zac4mac |
You've got a "powerband from hell" with this motor. You can downshift if you want but won't get more than a few HP out of that effort. Don't deride for style, just go with what feels right. I've hit the noid twice in 22.6k miles, once with it disabled, one not. The "not" was first. Zack | ||
| P_squared |
I've been waiting for my plug to show up and it continues to catch me out every couple of days. Why don't you just remove the cable until the resistor arrives? Remove it from the butterflies & unscrew it from the noid. Problem solved. ~30 mins. to do it. | ||
| Avc8130 |
5k rpm where the noid operates is about 75hp. Drop down a gear and up to about 7k rpm and you JUMP to 100hp. Seems like the little tap dance is WELL worth the effort. ac | ||
| Augustus74 |
Millenium - I thought the factory plug prevented the CEL?!?!? | ||
| Zac4mac |
I said POWER band, oops then I said HP... Torque is pretty flat there, that's "what moves you". Guess you're right, tho, I did say HP, shoulda said ft-lbs, my bust.  Z | ||
| P_squared |
Again, the resistor only prevents CELs/codes that would show up if you completely disconnected the noid. It's an actively monitored part of the bike. All the resistor does is make the ECM "think" the noid is still connected, until you meet the correct conditions to activate it. Once that condition is met (3rd gear, ~4750 rpm, WOT) a CEL will occur. The CEL will clear at the next clean start. The code will clear from memory after 50 clean starts. The only way I'm aware of to completely prevent a CEL after removing the 'noid is via the Race ECM. Just my experience & YMMV. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
No, the factory plug won't eliminate the CEL - Nor will removing the cable. Since the bike 'knows' it should be doing that at the mystical node point, the throttle position sensor (I'm guessing here?) is not registering it since it didn't happen as it was designed to. The CEL clears when you take the key to Off and then back to On. The P---- "Act Int Sys Error" still shows in Diags for awhile ... I've heard 50 start cycles, but not sure about that since I've not done it. I'd much rather see that momentary CEL than have the bike fall on its face. AC, I see what you're saying about downshifting. I've not been at this as long as you have, so rolling hard out of corners in 3rd feels plenty good to me. No argument downshifting would give it extra jump, but one of the things I like best about the torque is the ability to go fast by not knocking the lever down. That's why I started the thread with 'riding style', which is going to vary by individual. Mike | ||
| Avc8130 |
With comments like THAT ^^^ you sound like a Harley guy! Looking for acceleration (which has time in it) HP is key. ac | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I admitted upfront that I came from about a half dozen H-D big twins, not counting that extended affair with my '00 X1 ... But since that 1203 was hopped up H-D, I probably took some habits into that one. But after spending a couple of weeks on the 1125, I might have to change that to "was a Harley guy". I've never had this much fun on a bike, including those butt-clenching 'oh s**t' learning moments! (Message edited by milleniumx1 on November 08, 2009) | ||
| Nillaice |
i find that i keep the rpms lower in the range. prolly from years on the xb, and other v-twins. 4500 RPM is like the sweetest spot on my 9. i try not looking at the tach on the 1125, but it still feels/sounds wrong. and 4500 RPM in 3rd is like 45-50 MPH. a pretty common speed, and 3rd is a versatile gear, i think. so i (we) have to learn to down shift when i would not usually, and/or de-niod. | ||
| Nillaice |
but is still like to take the 9 out for a sccot. it just takes a lick and keeps on ... thumping? i'll have to try not to ring it's neck. |
