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Phoi
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm fairly confident after reading through most of the posts I can find on the issue, but just to make sure:
battery not charging + stinky oil = bad stator, yes?
Also, I bought her at 14.7K and put a close to 15k more on her, which seems like it's about that time >.>
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Bprigge
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Phoi, I wouldn't change a stator based on no charging and stinky oil. I would unplug the stator and check it for output accross the 2 pins in the wiring harness. I would also check it for shorts to ground. If you have normal output and no shorts to ground you don't need a stator.
What bike do you have by the way? Bruce
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Phoi
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2005 xb9sx. It's been a developing problem, I've changed the battery within the past 6 mo. It sat a few days when I replaced my slip on, I charged it over night, and toodled around for an hour, and it was dead the next morning.
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Phoi
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'll have to sit a few more days while I find mah tools. . . just moved :P
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the 77 connector.
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Jlnance
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do check the stator before you replace it, it's simple to do, and the instructions are in the manual. If it destroyed itself in a manner which would cause stinky oil, it is likely shorted to ground, which is very easy to check for.

I would also check the regulator and the connector Reep mentioned.

Note that if you're using formula+ in your transmission, it's pretty stinky stuff anyway, so don't go on that alone.
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Phoi
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, hauled it all to pieces and found a very crispy stator. replaced that, got a new regulator (which included the new 77 connector), and in preliminary testing (stator unplugged) the starter does not engage. I get an unusual whine, with a few more frequencies thrown in than I'm used to (specifically a mysteriously lower one), and when I hit the starter, it just hammers the clutch ring gear. This is after letting it charge for an hour, setting the charger to "start" amps, and trying to crank it.
Voltage drops to 7 when starting.
Any idea what I broke? also, I'm trying to test with the old regulator plugged in to the old 77 connector. I'm under the impression that, on the charger, it shouldn't matter. (it would start before, if it had been charged)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odd. Stator and regulator should have nothing to do with the starter (aside from letting the battery die).

And when you pulled the primary cover off, you shouldn't have had to mess with the starter.

So maybe a starter relay problem, or a starter problem, but I would think it is unrelated to the stator and VR work... unless you left the primary chain locking tool in there ; )
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Phoi
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

kk, after charging on 2amps overnight, it's back to the old startup whine, and a couple clicks later, she was rumbling happily to herself. hopefully she was just pissed at me for letting her sit for a month, and she's over it now :/
on a related note, after a quick sunrise jaunt down the road after a month of being trapped in the cage, thoughts like "oh God, oh God, I there is NO WAY I deserve to be this happy. . ." are getting annoyingly repetitive.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I get an unusual whine, with a few more frequencies thrown in than I'm used to (specifically a mysteriously lower one), and when I hit the starter, it just hammers the clutch ring gear.




Yep that sounds like a near dead battery, similar to hold an old cassette player would play slower as the battery died.

The 2 amp overnight is the proper way to charge it, I have read doing the fast charge can damage the battery.

Glad you are back up and running : )
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