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Ratsmc
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:44 am: |
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First, hello. An 1125CR was the first new bike I have ever bought as most of the time I build them myself. I am very, very happy with this bike. That said, I am having a problem. I park the bike in my garage and since the first day, it has leaked gas through some sort of drain tube attached to the rear left passenger peg bracket. Aside from the very slight annoyance of losing fuel and the far greater annoyance of having a garage and to some degree my house smell like gas fumes, I want to know what is wrong. This simply cannot be a design "feature". Part of me has been thinking that this could just be the heat building up in the frame (it does get hot) and causing fuel fumes to force some of the gas out of the breather tube. Any help with de-stinking my garage would be appreciated. |
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Dcmortalcoil
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:54 am: |
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Got the same issue. Other posts suggest something to do with heating fuel while the engine is turned off. One suggested solution is insulating the frame, particularly the area near the header |
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Westtx_cr
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:04 am: |
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Its normal and usually stops after break-in. The smell(gas vapor I assume)seems to stick around. |
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Smoothrod
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:21 am: |
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Brand new CR owner here too, same issue. I posted this same question a few days ago, lots of people have the same issue so im gonna say its pretty normal. |
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Averagejoe
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:17 am: |
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Yep get used to it, do a search on the carbon canister, its reqd on CA bikes, its available at the dealer for about 35 bucks route your vent to it, fits under your seat |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:44 am: |
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I posted that same thing about a week back. It is normal (and by design) for 49-state bikes. The CA model vents this fuel/fumes to an under-seat charcoal canister and back into the engine. There seems to be three choices for the 49-state bikes >> 1. Live with the smell, even if it means the wife complaining about it. This was not a good option for me 2. Buy and install the charcoal canister and reroute the two hoses, one going to the canister and one going outbound to engine. 3. Spend $3 on a line that connects to the rear passenger peg outlet and then exits just outside your garage door. For now, I went with option #3. When I pull in, I plug the line in and the drips go outside. Not fancy, but it works. <picture> Mike
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Chadhargis
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:58 am: |
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That's a very innovative idea! I just let mine sit outside for 30 minutes or so, then wheel it inside. No problems. |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:04 am: |
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Chad, I got that 'run a line outside' idea from another person here, so I can't take credit. It started life as a temporary solution, but it works so well that I can't see myself installing the canister until snow keeps me from riding. Probably one of the few times $3 and 10-15 minutes work made my wife so happy ... |
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1324
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:59 am: |
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Chad, interesting idea. I might make one suggestion, though: Re-route the line to have a steady pitch down and out. Otherwise the hot vapor could condense in the long cool run of line and then pool up in the middle somewhere. Just a thought... |
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Avalaugh
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:58 pm: |
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Once i get my bike back from the dealer (in for warrenty work, again)ill take some pics of what i did. I have used a inline fuel filter, the clear plastic with a paper filter in type, cut the vent line under the seat and put it inline, it allows air to travel both ways, but traps the vapours which drip out, when i ride next time they get evaporated back up the line, so far not a drop out on the floor, and no problems at all ![: )](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/happy.gif) |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:59 pm: |
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Okay, only a gearhead (or nut like me) could appreciate this >> I did run the external line up (high) at the rear, and the exit portion is down (low) going to the ground outside the garage. Then just for good measure, I will disconnect it at the bike after about an hour, and blow through the line since I had that same 'pooling' concern on the straight stretch. No, I'm not drinking or sniffing the fuel Mike |
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1324
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:09 pm: |
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Don't lie, you take a swig every now and then, lol. Couldn't tell from the pic, only reason I asked. I took the more expensive approach and I just ordered the carbon canister for my bike. I'll post my reviews when I get it installed. I went this route because I park outside my garage in the driveway and I'm sick of the spots the bike leaves. |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:21 pm: |
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1324, maybe when the wife isn't looking! I'll put the canister on mine this winter, but just couldn't be bothered right now. I did get the noid resister done, the quick-release seat pin kit, removal of rear reflectors, and several suspension tweaks to get the bike the way I like it best. I've also washed it twice ... So I'm not lazy. Now, I need to go check that fuel line again Mike |
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Hack_job
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:34 pm: |
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Avalaugh, Thats exactly what I was thinking of doing! I'll give it a shot this weekend. If that doesn't cure it than I guess I'll be ordering the cali canister. Its such a nuisance. |
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1324
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:41 pm: |
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I'm sure people probably already installed the canister, but if not I'll post my results. Then again, how many people put emissions equipment on their bikes? Huh. I hear ya man, gotta prioritize. Been making my fender eliminator which is almost done. Then on to other endeavors. |
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Avalaugh
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:44 pm: |
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This is as near as damit the same filter i have used http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/trail-tools-and -essentials/in-line-fuel-filter/prod_101.html http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/images/uploads/ trail%20tools%20and%20essentials/inlinefuelfilter- 800.jpg |
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Bueller_bjorn
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:49 pm: |
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I just park it outside for 30 mins then bring it in once it cools down. |
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Bhillberg
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 03:18 pm: |
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I have taken possibly the cheapest, easiest approach yet. I take an old beer can that I have caved the top in on (anybody that dips knows what I am talking about) then I set the can under the line, wait an hour or so and then go back out in the garage and discard the can. I know it is redneck but it works and if I forget to go back out my bike isn't sitting outside. Like I said, it's pretty low tech but it works for now. |
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Ratsmc
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 04:55 pm: |
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Thanks for all the responses. I apologize for posting a topic that has been covered. I did search a couple of times but the closest I could fins was topics regarding the smell while I was getting actual fuel leaking. The immediate solution is to just leave the bike outside for a while. I'll consider the evap canister option (I thought when I moved from CA I was done with the damn things. I need to understand the fuel filter solution a little better. It seems like it is just acting as a reservoir for the fuel - essentially holding it until everything cools. Then what? Running it the next time heats it and it evaporates off? I'm still confused. Anyway, thanks again. |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 05:00 pm: |
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Rat, it's probably one of the few (only?) times that I and others that once lived in CA have seriously considered putting a CA-specific part on a 49-state bike. I was amazed at just how badly a small bit of fuel dripped can stick up an enclosed garage. I could have lived with it, but the first time my wife noticed, I knew it had to be corrected somehow. And then when she reminded me that my first Buell ('00 X1) didn't do that, she showed she was willing to play nasty with the new 09R! Mike |
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Ratsmc
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 05:28 pm: |
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Mike, to tell the truth, I probably wouldn't have thought about actually putting effort into it if the wife wasn't annoyed by it. |
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Too_tall_ss
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 05:47 pm: |
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It's dripping out due to the line being so long that the fuel vapor condensates within the line. One way to fix it is to make the line shorter and re rout it, this is what I did to my CR when I took the passenger pegs off. No more drip-drip, but it still has a lot of vapor, not much you can do about that unless you use the for-mentioned fixes above. |
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1buell1125r
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:35 pm: |
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would you happen to have the part # on that canister just in case the H-D shop has troubles finding! |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:59 pm: |
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I believe it's >> 27042-84A. The hoses don't come with it, which means you'd need these two numbers >> P0066.1AM (TB to Can) P0067.1AM (Tank to Can) I saw that in an earlier post and jotted the numbers on a post-it here on my desk. So if I wrote them correctly, that should do it. Mike |
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Velocity
| Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 12:02 am: |
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I don't a CR but I do have an R... Wow the remote hose deal sound nuts to have to do that. I have good luck with pulling in the garage and opening the gas cap to let the pressure out. Replace the cap and forget about it. Works so far. Scott |
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Bwbueller
| Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 12:13 am: |
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Velocity seems to have a logical answer.. The tube is definitely the most creative.. Buell should sell a steel braided garage gas drip rerouting tube!! maybe even with some cool led lights.. : ) |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:32 am: |
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Velocity (Scott) just gave me another reason to ride mine today - Check out the effect of removing the cap! Come to think of it, I have stopped to refuel mine twice and didn't notice the same volume coming out of the vent tube. Realize this was not a scientific test of measurement, but rather just anecdotal. |
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Joebuell
| Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:47 am: |
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I have never seen on any motorcycle board where people willingly put ON a california spec emissions device. Mods please delete this thread before any officials from CARB find it and use the information against us... |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:50 am: |
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Joe, agreed! By happenstance, I met a couple of other '25 riders this past Sunday. We started talking about the thread I started (same subject) here in BadWeb. It was the first time for all of us that we were seriously considering ADDING a CA-specific part to a 49-state bike. Once again proving the old adage, "Never say never!" Mike |
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Velocity
| Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:26 am: |
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Guys the problem is we are "free thinkers" and are willing to go to the extremes to make these bikes work! I too drank the cool-aid and love my buells. Ride with pride Scott |
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