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Nickg
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:45 am: |
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I am going to do the noid mod when I do my high bars. Do I have to remove the cable and solenoid? can't I just unplug the soleniod and plug the resister in the harness and leave the rest undisturbed? I would not need to zip tie anything then |
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Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:01 am: |
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Yes, you can leave it. Yes, you'd still want to zip tie. For the 2 minutes of work and 5 lbs of weight you can remove, just take it all out. |
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Poppinsexz
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:11 am: |
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I did remove mine, however I forgot to zip tie. No biggie. The solenoid was used to pull the throttle plates closed, not open. And they are spring biased anyhow. |
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Ccryder
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:25 am: |
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If you don't tie them together they can flutter independent of each other and that is not the best. Some think that can contribute to low speed surging (think about it with 2 BIG throttle bodies sucking air). Later Neil S. |
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Dongalonga
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:28 am: |
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I just removed the cable until i can get the resistor...do i still need to ziptie for the time being |
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Chadhargis
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:34 am: |
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The spring on those TBs is pretty heavy. I gave it a look and considered if it would flutter or not. I'm sure it COULD, but I don't know that it would. I still safety wired mine just to be sure. If you're in there, you might as well take the extra few minutes to do the job right. |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:43 am: |
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I just installed the resistor plug and left the rest alone. That can be done just by taking off the front seat. I may go back in and take the guts out, but it's not high on my priority list ... At least not while it's sunny and warm outside. BTW, I did force the solenoid to do its thing prior to disabling it. Even knowing it was going to happen was oddly unsettling. I'd never want that to happen unexpectedly, especially when $6 cures it. Mike |
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Fmaxwell
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:47 am: |
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@Chadhragis, You and I had the exact same thoughts and methodology. It *could* flutter and others have reported that it does (though having the solenoid connected does nothing to prevent said fluttering. I also went with safety wire. It's easier to tighten securely than plastic Ty-Wraps and there's no concern about heat, fumes, or ozone degrading it over time. |
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Ccryder
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:55 am: |
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There are a coup;e of springs on the TB linkages. Some are stiffer than others. I can't recall which is which at the moment but, you do have some big "slugs" of air being sucked down those big stacks and at lower rpm's they don't have a chance to smooth out. Yep the actuation of the solenoid will catch you off guard even if you know it will happen. 2-4 times a week I'll still get a CEL during passing that would have resulted in the solenoid pulling the butterflies closed. I just grin and go on, and on, and on.......... This morning was a cool ride but not too cold with the Gerbing. The Deer are REALLY on the move so WATCH OUT!!! Time2Work Darn |
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Poppinsexz
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 12:15 pm: |
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If the throttle plates were going to "flutter" wouldn't you think it would do it with the solenoid connected. I'll have to recheck mine but I believe that the solenoid had a light spring built in that was pulling on the throttle plates towards closed. If anything it should be more stable now that the extra(closing) spring force in the solenoid is gone. |
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Chadhargis
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:39 pm: |
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+1 on the deer Ccrider! I was out on Sunday and saw several. |
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Averagejoe
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:03 pm: |
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one jam nut and one torx bolt and its off why leave it? Be supprised how heavy that solenoid is. |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 05:15 pm: |
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I did mine about midnight one night, and didn't feel like messing with removing all the other pieces required to get to the whole thing. Catch me on a long week of rain, or snow, and I might be persuaded. But for now, the primary objective is done ... Mike |
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Moosestang
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 05:29 pm: |
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If you don't tie them together they can flutter independent of each other and that is not the best. Some think that can contribute to low speed surging (think about it with 2 BIG throttle bodies sucking air). I tied mine together and the surging below 5k didn't change. |
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Brumbear
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:20 pm: |
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Froggy give em the pics man that thing is heavy |
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Redscuell
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:46 pm: |
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On at least my 09, and perhaps all of them, denoiding has no effect, in that WITH the noid there has never been an event; so without it: ditto. That's in 20,000 km of city and freeway riding in less than a year. So perhaps it's not necessary on any 09. Maybe. I doubt mine's "special". |
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Brumbear
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:50 pm: |
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mine definatlt dropped out to stall as I rapped the throttle 2 times |
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Milleniumx1
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 07:45 pm: |
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Red, you mentioned kilometers in your post ... I don't know, but I could see the non-US spec bikes not having the noid function since the EPA test is most likely a US-only thing. I'm guessing plenty of folks here know a lot more about it than I do. Mike |
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Cafefun
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 07:54 pm: |
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My 09 has the problem and it will be getting de-noided |
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Beafraid8
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 08:31 pm: |
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Ditto on the '09 with the issue. |