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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking at Manic Salamander and Throttle Meister. Anyone here have experience with either? Recommendations?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my XB I have HVMP bar end weights and use an o-ring to be a throttle lock, it works fantastic. I just need to transfer it over to the lobster. No clue about the ones you linked, but the O-ring was free so I didn't look at anything else.
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Throttlemeister tends to slowly start to engage during spirited riding as you are on and off the throttle.

Not ideal, honestly. Nice bar ends, though. Ultimately, I took out the throttle stick capability and just enjoy an otherwise very nice product.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. One of my friends has a Throttlemeister on his CBR1000RR and has never mentioned that (but then again I don't know how often he goes out blitzing backroads either).

That's how I first heard of the product. Just as I was about to order a set for myself, I saw an ad for Manic Salamander... so I came here to see if anyone had experiences with either.

Thanks,
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Love my Throttle Meister's !

No problems with cruise control , great quality and finish

Great for Vibration and sliders

Dont know about the Salamanders , but look nice

Ken
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Sparropie
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ThrottleMonster... very expensive IMHO. Bought mine in '01 for my S-3. My LH unit came loose during a ride and jettisoned into the pack behind me. Somehow missed everyone. I liked the product but wouldn't spend that much again.
I recently tried a 'throttle rocker' dealio; the thing you can relax your wrist on and use your palm... NOT SO GOOD. With this gizmo I almost killed myself. With throttle closed I extended my hand for a little more front break and my BadPony reared-up in a most unexpected manner. Reacting to that I did my first +50mph stoppie. And lived without flippin' over. Thing is in the parts bin now.
May try the 'O' ring...
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sparropie, here is my O-ring setup on my XB. I slip it in between the bar end grip with a flick of a wrist or pinkie.

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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like in a pinch you can get a replacement inside any gas station men's room, too... ; )
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Nadz
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still swear by the BrakeAway- it'll be the first comfort/safety mod on my next bike.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=468706#POST468706
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to avoid those types of devices because they take up some of the width of the grip. That's why I was looking at the bar-end types. Thanks, though. Never heard of that brand before.
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Oddball
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I forget where I saw someone adapt a toyota cruise control to a bike. Might have ben over on advrider.
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Misterrich
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your throttlemeister is turning on by itself its either rider error and installed incorrectly. I put them on all my bikes and never have any problems.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One might argue if the throttlemeister *isn't* creeping towards tightening up, it's rider error.

Your hands should be on the outside of the bars where they have greater leverage. Using the throttle on/off as would happen on a very twisty road will result in the need to periodically rotate the bar end lock back to "off", as it will tend to slowly creep up to "tight".

At least, that was my experience with them. Like I said, I like mine, but I find the throttle lock functionally useless at best and somewhat irritating at worst.

The main gripe is there's never a single throttle position that's right. You will constantly be gaining or loosing gobs of speed as you go up and down hills, etc.

Toss in the "unintended locking" issue, and I kept my 'meisters, but disabled the throttle lock action.

I never noticed it when I had them on an ST1300. Of course, I didn't ride the ST1300 like I ride the 1125r. I might even say "anywhere the throttlemeister might pay value is the kind of road an 1125r shouldn't be on in the first place."

If'n ya wanna ride the slab, get a scooter : )
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I'm allergic to putting a perfectly functional motorcycle on a trailer and the slab is the best way to get to the "good roads." It's not like my house is by an entrance ramp to the Blue Ridge Parkway...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto: As much as I love, from time to time, riding in NYC . . . it's a bear to get out of.

Some of the BEST riding in the country is close . . .but, from where I am, it requires going through 1 hour of pure hell leaving and coming home.

Once you get 1 hour from NYC the roads are spectacular.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For me, the "good roads" are a 5-hour slab to Arkansas.

Honestly, to trailer up there (or pick-up, as is my case) is the only way I can get a set of tires to last the weekend.

Additionally, I'd rather be in the truck Friday and Sunday night in the dark, and save all that daylight for riding really, really good roads, instead of the average crap to and from.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW: I even ride to track days. I consider it extra incentive NOT to do anything stupid on the track so as to damage my only way of getting back home...
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Chadhargis
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to be a huge anti-trailer person. Until I got a trailer.

Now it's really nice to trailer over all the old boring slab and arriving fresh to the good roads. Riding hard. Then trailing back home.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to do that. As my pace increased, it became impractical.

1 - I was too tired at the end of the day and the ride home was getting dangerous.
2 - The whole track vs. street tire pressure issue
3 - Being able to bring water/drinks/snacks was an issue
4 - Running good rubber was completely out of the question since you couldn't have stands/warmers
5 - A bike set up for my pace at the track is more or less unrideable on the street. And, likewise, a bike set up for a great afternoon in the mountains is a long way from right for the track.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't go that often. Once a year (and with California Superbike School or Reg Pridmore's C.L.A.S.S.). Not worth it for me.

I'm more of a "tourer" that likes to occasionally let out his "wild side" from time to time. That's why I'm looking for something that'll let me occasionally rest my right hand on a longer ride. I've been "spoiled" by the K1200LT.

I guess the ideal would be a SMALL trailer I could hook up to the K1200LT to tow the 1125R. I only really use my car in the winter when there's snow and ice on the ground, otherwise it sits there gathering dust and leaves.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a $4,000 Dodge Ram 1500 long bed! It works great... holds two sportbikes, guys and gear!

I just turned it into my daily driver. It's a beat up old POS, but as long as she's mechanically sound I'm happy. : )
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As the bumper sticker says: "I'd Rather Be Riding."
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Riding to the track is hugely impractical. When I started riding, even superslab riding was cool and novel. Now it just sucks and I will do alot to avoid it.

Also I hate ruining my tires for any possible track day by flat spotting 'em on the ol slab.
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Throttlemeister for sure! Over 300k miles with a TM, no issues. Yeah it takes a little to get it set up right and use Loctite on the bolts. Besides that it is the best
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't go that often. Once a year (and with California Superbike School or Reg Pridmore's C.L.A.S.S.). Not worth it for me.


YA NO KIDDING!!!

isnt the CA superbike school like $2200 a WEEKEND?? i spent considerably less than that for the NINE track days i wedged in this year!!

after a school admission like that, WHO COULD AFFORD A REAL TRACK DAY??

even for their 'track days' at 450/day, you can spend HALF that going to laguna seca or miller with a REAL track day provider... and you still get instruction.

..granted the instruction isnt from jesus 'keith code' christ... but the instructors that work on the major 3 track day organizations are all well known AFM riders... and theyre a lot faster THAN YOU!

taking the CA superbike school makes absolutely no sense to me... unless you are just soo far advanced that the AFM guys cant get you any faster....



(Message edited by pizzaboy on October 13, 2009)
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you ever been to Code's school? It's a different environment than a track day -- much of the chaos that exists on a normal track day isn't there. And, a good lunch is included : )

The instructor:student ratio is better and code's deal, and there's been a lot of effort put into creating a curriculum that works for a broad swath of riders.

I'm not defending it... just suggesting you don't have the whole picture. BTW: the $2200 weekend also includes everything you need. Literally, fly in, ride, fly home. Take No bike, no leathers, nothing. They provide it all.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresno, I'm with ya buddy.

When I first started riding, just puttering around in the city and on the slab was awesome.

Now I have to have a nice twisty road, no traffic, and a lot of time to really enjoy a ride. I hate that it's come to that, but I simply hate sitting in traffic, or droaning down the interstate. If I'm going to do that, I'd rather be in my SUV with the A/C on, a cold drink, and the radio blasting tunes.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$2,200??? Where the hell are you taking it? That sounds like it MIGHT be the two day camp. Use your own bike and your own leathers and it's well under $500.
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Vecchio_lupo
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had Throttlemeister, and Manic Salamander. They both work fine for me. I think the throttle meister was better, but cost alot more. The Manics work just fine on my S3T.
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