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Ray_Maines
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ara: No factory support. None! Not now, not ever. Think Elves. Lots and lots of little Elves.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I won't be able to get to North Africa this year, but would be happy to help if you guys are going anywhere near the chicago area . . .we should be able to muster a buncha elves (of all shapes, sizes, and curly-toe development)
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Rex
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Team Elves goes to Dakar?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Ray said!

JW,
Good RP. :thumbsup:

Where the hell is Aaron?
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Court
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Where the hell is Aaron?
He's smart enough to stay clear of this.

Ok..you want my thoughts.

It'd be fun but I'd vote for a "random" bike if you really wanna make an "in your facement".

Vickie is sitting here, calling Jim Witt "perhaps the smartest of you and your half-crazed friends".

"Factory" donor bikes are always magnets for "ringers". Some folks play straight, some don't. One German manufacturer of horizontially opposed twins stands alone for having done more than their share to fouls the waters of integrity.

Surely some of you remember the slings and arrows of some of the magazine tests.

The best example of a straight shooting shoot-out was the Ducati Monster for the Battle2Win test.

Lorraine and I arrive at Steve Carroll's European Cycle only to hear..."sorry, the bike NJ shipped for the test was damaged in shipment". I expect to hear "you're screwed" and my jaw drops when he says "why don't you take these two 91's for a couple hours and we'll pull a bike from storage and get it set up".

Ditto the Buell when Bartel's dropped the ball having the S-1 ready. The silver bike in the test was Regdomly selected from the Buell demo van.

The only way I'd agree to factory invovlement would be:

1) I send an "Elf" to point at a random bike going down the line without the knowledge of the Buellfessionals.

2) Keith Ulicki (who I have a habit of punishing over the years with my Buellventures) has a truck waiting to take the bike to Kenosha for setup.

Off we go.......

Trust me....no manufacturer would touch that deal. If you could get it past PR it'd be cool...but folks hate level fields.

I do, however, have all the confidence in the world that the XB platform would run day and night (routine maintenace gets done of course) without missing a lick.....

Please don't tempt me....

Court
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Josh
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If DaveS is lending a bike I'm all over riding it to NY (or wherever Court wants to start).

Can we get it like this?
'Bolt
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Davefl
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Help!!

Can someone with a service manual for a 1999 S3 or
X1 tell me what a trouble code of 48 is? I have a book for a 2001 model and it is not listed.


Thanks in advance
Dave
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Jst
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the lap of America ever happens, I'm in for the Florida leg. I could grove on a chance to ride an XB from Panama city to Key west and back up to Jacksonville in one shot. I'm currently without position, I could use the excitement.
JT
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99x1
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"1999 S3 or X1 tell me what a trouble code of 48 is?"
It's also not listed in the '99 service manual. Jumps from 44 (Bank angle Sensor) to 52 (ECM failure).

John
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Iamike
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave,
There isn't a 48 code. Go back and check it again, one time I was chasing a code on my car and couldn't figure out how that one was causing the problem. When I went back and checked it again I had just mis-counted the flashes and the real problem was obvious then.
44 is - bank angle sensor
52,53,54,55 are ECM failures
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Davefl
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank John,

Thats what the 2001 manual has. Going to try and get it put on the scanalizer tomorrow. I bet they
leave a few codes out just so you will have to take it in to the dealer time to time. It would not be good for the service if the book told you how to fix everything.

Dave.
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Road_Thing
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Half-crazed?"

I think I've been put down. When it comes to moto-toys, I am Fully Crazed!

Vickie, you seemed like such a nice lady in person...

Put me down for the Texas leg...

r-t
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Ocbueller
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seem to recall a certain LSR bike get started like this. Australia, Africa, U.S., count me in on something, I'm aging quickly.

Dibs on the Maryland/Delaware leg of a pony express type gig.(Court can't have all the fun)
SteveH
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pony Express, one lap of America, Bangor to Miami to Seattle to Duluth to Bangor, roughly 10000 miles.

Neat idea BUT any modern bike can do 10000 miles I say we do a criss cross route and include hot laps at some of the nations top roadrace tracks.

Loudon to Watkins Glen to VMS to Daytona to Road Atlanta to ... you get the idea.

Anyone have contacts at tracks who might get is in for a lap or two?

Dave
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Buelliedan
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahaha!!

Look what I have done!! ;)
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Captpete
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey JT:

Ya wanna hog the whole state of Florida, do ya?

I say, let every BWBer who wants get in on this. The more the better. Sign up with your local-section-group-organizer. (Would ya take the Key West - Marathon Key leg?) ;-)

Besides, I've made that very Jax to Panama City trip, more than once, and it takes exactly 99 hours, non-stop. And 900 gallons of fuel. That's the long way. It's a little quicker coming back if you jump out into the Stream at Key West.

Oh, wait a minute. That was in a 73' trawler in good weather. But it still represents almost 10% of the trip.

Hmmm... Let me keep an open mind here. With enough iron-butt guys like you, we could shoot for ten laps; 100,000 miles, and see how far it goes?

Capt. Pete
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok folks, count me in for the Minnesota leg or anywhere in the area.

We'll need to figure out a route then figure the logistical part (tires, oil, etc.).
This part could be as much fun as the riding!! (well,,, almost anyway)

Brad
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Jst
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captpete,
First rule of sales: Always ask for more than you want.
I'd settle for any section of the Florida run. Key West to Marathon isn't a bad run. It's just to damn straight for my taste.
JT
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was an S1 in Battle Twin magazine about 2-3 years ago that was a feature bike.It was black with alot of realistic lightning on it if some has this magazine and can post the picture I'd really appreciate it.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd offer to help out here in New England, but I'm only 3 hours from New York City, and I doubt that Court would need relief this soon. If company is wanted, however, I'd love to ride along side for a while.
Of course, if for some reason, you do need a rider for a segment, I'd consider it an honor.
I think that paint scheme Josh came up with is absolutely gorgeous.
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Henrik
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XB9 CCoA (Criss Cross of America):
We could try to organize the ride in Iron Butt style:
- Locals scout the routes, gas stations, rest stops etc.
- Command central keeps track of the progress and alerts the local crews of ETA, rider/bike needs.
- Local crew meets up with the bike/rider, takes care of small fixes, fuels bike (locals pay while bike takes off).
- Service stops are scheduled in advance at event friendly dealers, who in return are allowed to use the event and a few photos in their advertising.
- Locals can meet up with/ride with and guide the bike rider throughout the ride.
etc. etc.

I'll do a to/from NYC stretch.

We could make it more interesting for both bike and rider (and PR value) by doing the entire route on twisty secondary roads. That would sure add to the mileage as well.

While I agree we should use a stock bike right off the lot, I'd suggest a Lightning because of the higher bars/lower pegs, and we should allow installing a touring type/gel seat and a set of ProGrip gel grips

Henrik
(just stirring the pot )
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Henrik
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paris - Dakar:

I watched some of this years race on Speed. Peter's pictures gives an idea of the pounding these vehicles take. But no matter what bike/motor we'd choose for this, there is no doubt that some serious modification/reinforcing would be necessary.

Of course trying this on any sort of Buell would give us some serious Underdog status :)

Peter, I'm always happy operating/working on people; smiling, humming to myself. When I worked ER a few "clients" found it quite disturbing (insert evil laughter here) .

But if this gets beyond planning, count me in in some function.

Henrik
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Josh
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crusty, the paint scheme is a $95 sticker kit from Buell.
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Buellskinner
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Davegess:

I can get access to Talladega, Charlotte, Atlanta, possibly Daytona, Road Atlanta, and possibly some of the other ISC owner tracks.

Keep us up to speed.

Be Safe
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skinner, Henrik, that would be the deal, backroads to racetracks. Do a couple hard laps at the track, can't crash 'cause we need the bike so just fast not crasy, and get back out on the road.

We coudl do stuff like the Blue Ridge and Natchez Trace, Going to the Sun, US 1, Route 66, all sorts of cool roads.

I am sure it would make Buell and HD crazy. No way to control what happens, totally beyond the comfort zone of known public test, conducted by crasy amateurs. I LOVE IT.

This has the sound of an Elves extravaganza.

Don't want to spoil the LSR efforts, these are on going and planing is well advanced, but this could involve a lot of people who don't get to Bonneville and are not interested in racing.

Court you have created a Frankestein with this elves thing. These people think they can do anything!!!!!

Dave
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Court
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>These people think they can do anything!!!!!

They can .

:)
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Court
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go Hawks!
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Jst
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Sorry couldn't resist
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Tripper
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Quote:

Please don't tempt me....

Court



Somebody tell him his stinkin little XB would'nt make it around the block...

hey, it worked last time.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Please don't tempt me....
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Court,

First off, you're way to short, your feet stink, your girlfriend dresses you funny, you couldn't ride a rockin horse out of the playground, you're ugly as a mud fence, you're REAL damn old, You couldn't find your own ass with both hands, a map, two GPS receivers and a flashlight, much less two corners of this country. You squat when you pee, your bra and panties don't match, your dog won't play with you without a pork chop AND a bitch in heat by your side, your rubber chicken is limp and flaccid, your truck is UGLY.... and did I mention you're way to short for such a ride?

In short, I don't think you or anyone else on this board have what it takes to put something like this ride together.

Besides all that, your girlfriend would NEVER let you out of the house without your leash for that long.

So, if you decide to remove your tail from between your legs and try it, let me know and I'll help in any way I can. :)

KLANK KLANK klank klank as the gauntlet hits the ground

hehehehe
Luv ya buddy
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